This was long overdue.
Microsoft Office should be next.
Stop replying on U.S. companies for technologies that provide the backbone of our governments!
Never heard of jitsi?
It’s opensource ! https://github.com/suitenumerique/meet
It’s open source and they have documentation for self-hosting it !
uhhhh on github :(
They could just use https://www.opendesk.eu/en and join the German D-Stack https://gitlab.opencode.de/dstack/d-stack-home
Nah, a little healthy competition is good for growth.
The tone of these comments as weird.
I agree, it was the same on reddit.
i wonder if Isreal designed it for them.
If it is Israel it’s the same picture
To be fair, I find the idea of a government outsourcing IT needs to entities under the sovereignty of foreign governments kind of fundamentally problematic to begin with.
Anything that kicks big tech’s teeth in is good.
ohh i can’t express how much i like that image.
Why do european tech companies need to call their products the same name as already established american products. Don’t they google the names before they make the decision?
tech companies
The French government is not a tech company.
Debatable
Visio is an outdated spreadsheet name, in English.
Visio is the new video conferencing software, in French.
France leads the world, it is up to everyone else to worry about conflict with France, not the other way around. /s
deleted by creator
We don’t do google here ok
It’s uncouth and unfashionable, the French prefer to get information by sticking their head out of the window whilst wildly waving a baguette and yelling: “Quoi de neuf ?”
american law is relative, who cares
No mention of Capgemini on the announcement, there’s a chance this will actually ship!
Trump is amazing. He literally destroys anything he touches and still get rewarded for it. Just wow.
Edit: Destroys casinos and hotels. Gets rewarded a tv show. Destroy multiple brands. Get rewarded the presidency. Destroys so many American lives. Gets rewarded the presidency a second time. Destroys the United States and it’s ties with it’s allies. Gets rewarded with untold billions.
Could you destroy unnecessary apostrophes in possessive pronouns? Get rewarded with correct grammar.
Correcting grammar on the Internet is like trying to drink a ocean.
Ok incel.
Oh sorry, I interrupted you in the middle of changing the world.
He is as fucking narcisist, he doesn’t care not to ruin anything.
magic or a trick?
Depends on if you believe in Satan or not.
amigo, i am on lemmy for 1 day, but i already forgot what you are replying to and i don’t know how to jump to my own comment to find what you are replying to. Can you help? Thank you√2
When you see my comment in your inbox, you can click the small icon below it that looks like a chainlink. That will take you to the original comment I replied to. From there you can also navigate up the thread.
Yeah. You asked if Trump being so successful despite a complete failure at everything was a trick or magic.
Who tells them that “Visio” is already a trademark?
Do you know what happens to trademarks and patents when a country starts threatening its (previous) allies with military invasion and tradewars, and start undermining the values of those allies? You’re right! It goes into the square hole! Heck, maybe I’m going to start a new software company tomorrow called Microsoft, and then threaten left and right with all crazy shit if anybody complains. Nobody will care about US trademarks since US disqualified itself by now.
Trademarks don’t matter when it’s only for internal use.
By Microsoft, no less.
I’m 100% in favor of this. Erode that trademark!
Probably not an enforceable trademark in France.
It is, and I genuinely worry that Microsoft will bitch about it.
https://www.tmdn.org/tmview/#/tmview/detail/FR500000098727661
It’s literally a generic word for video call.
They might have registered it but in the EU it’s not enforceable in the context of video calls.
If Microsoft tries to defend it in that context they could lose it in all contexts.
Good on them, but I Wonder why they can’t just build on top of something open source like Nextcloud.
It already has the majority of the Office-365 suite
It is open source and built on top of livekit which is open source.
All the tools of “La Suite Numerique” are open source.
Because the French government is hell bent on saving money, but they don’t care about anyone’s privacy at all. I wouldn’t be surprised if they are building a privacy nightmare system here. Having said that, at least they are removing Microslop, and anything that could potentially hurt Microslop in any way, shape or form, is a good thing.
i mean, a lot ia still in handwriten notebooks, the french and other similar countries should just skip IT and jump eight into the future and stay on paper, no?
I don’t know on what it’s based on, but it’s open source and audited.
It’s based on LiveKit.
Once these countries leave, they’ll never go back. And then the rest of us get better alternatives to this enshitification model.
Seriously, enshitification is the only thing US companies do well these days. They just dig deeper moats around their walled gardens because they’re too greedy to make decent products that people actually want.
Enshittification, AI slop and fascism are America’s greatest exports. And that’s not even a joke.
We grow pretty good weed too, that isn’t nothing.
Not exported overseas though.
I have a feeling it probably must be though. What other countries are pumping out literal metric tons annually?
My understanding is it’s only legalized on a state level and not federal. So I guess if they’re shipping it from an international airport or by sea the feds might see that as drug trafficking.
I absolutely mean smuggling
I live in Maine and the market is so flooded nobody can even grow straight for the black market and compete anymore, it’s all spills over from licenced grows. $80/oz for top shelf if you look around a little, $100 if you don’t. It’s almost impossible to spend more than $200. That has to be having farther reaching effects.
I’m on medcan in Australia. It gets imported from everywhere but I’ve yet to come across a US grown flower.
All of the North American stuff I’ve gotten is Canadian.
I think enshitification is a product of public traded companies promising infinite growth, not necessarily a problem of US only companies.
It’s also a consequence of low taxes on capital gains and corporate profits.
When those taxes were higher it made more sense to reinvest the profits back into your own company. You’d build a reputation and a structure that would pay out you and your family for a hundred years.
Now the dream is to build up a company just enough to sell it to some megacorp and cash out asap, with you and your family living off of investment money that only increases over time.
While I would love to see them never going back, here in Germany, all it takes is some corrupt politician taking a huge bribe from a lobbyist and swoosh, they are back to Microslop.
Edit: Knowing our little corrupt fuckers in charge in German politics, the bribe probably doesn’t even have to be mediocre.
In Australia a lobbyist would get that for around 10k AUD from Labor and probably 6 from the Coalition.
Our system (in the end it’s the same no matter where you are) is so fucked up :/ Kids need to learn empathy and selflessness as the most important school subject.
Once these countries leave, they’ll never go back.
Look up LiMux and the massive Microsoft deal that followed.
No, please stop with this garbage misinformation. Microsoft made a (suspected) under the table deal with the Munich government at the time to setup a Microsoft office in Munich if they switched back to Windows.
That’s what the news reported on endlessly. That’s the narrative that keeps getting falsely repeated over and over, and no one ever checks the BS stories they spread.
The rest of the story didn’t make headlines, where the new incoming Munich government said “hell no!” (prob in German) and continued the Linux rollout.
Today the environment is a mix of Linux and Windows, but they already have a large focus on FOSS software.
Despite the astonishingly stupid decision to roll their own in-house distro (LiMux), the program was massively successful, with Linux users filling only 40% the number of tickets the Windows users did.
Edit: I’m correcting something I said, they didn’t “continue the Linux rollout” as they had already covered most of their systems. The current status is a mix of Windows and Linux, because they vetoed the rollback to Windows in 2020.
Citation Needed
You first
You first
Are you afraid to provide any reference to your claim? Do you need extra time making up stuff?
“Die 43 000 städtischen Mitarbeiterinnen und Mitarbeiter nutzen also mittlerweile wieder Word, Outlook und PowerPoint […] Einfacher sei die Software-Frage bei den Servern im städtischen Rechenzentrum zu beantworten. Zwar haben man durchaus auch Windows-Server, aber die meisten laufen mit Linux, so Gernhardt.” (29. Juni 2025) https://www.sueddeutsche.de/muenchen/muenchen-verwaltung-open-source-it-microsoft-li.3256886
So Linux on servers, Windows including MS Office on desktops. The migration to Linux on desktops was completely reversed.
So where is ““hell no!” (prob in German) and continued the Linux rollout”? Where has it been “garbage misinformation”? Where are the exact stats about opening tickets? After all, you claim “Linux users filling only 40% the number of tickets the Windows users did”. That’s pretty specific.
Are you afraid to provide any reference to your claim? Do you need extra time making up stuff?
No. Just calling out your double standard. If you didn’t provide sources for your statements, then it’s rich for you to demand sources from me.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LiMux
“In May 2020, it was reported that the newly elected politicians in Munich, while not going back to the original plan of migrating to LiMux wholesale, will prefer Free Software for future endeavours.”
There are no official numbers, but the rollback to Windows was halted. It’s estimated that it’s currently a mix of Linux and Windows. And it’s been acknowledged that the move back to Windows was almost entirely political due to influence from Microsoft.
“In May 2020, it was reported that the newly elected politicians in Munich, while not going back to the original plan of migrating to LiMux wholesale, will prefer Free Software for future endeavours.”
So you lied. You claimed that Munich said “Hell no” to Microsoft Migration but here you spell it out yourself: The politicians did sell out to Microsoft and only newly elected politicians partially reversed it.
They use Windows and MS Office on desktops to this day and use Linux on servers and some FOSS tools ON WINDOWS DESKTOPS.
I was right, you lied.
That deal that totally had nothing to do with Microsoft relocating their headquarters closer to Munich
The Bavarian state government is still entirely in Microslop’s pocket
Not surprised. From what I’ve heard from pretty much every German person I’ve talked to, Bavaria is basically their Texas (read UP if you’re Indian, not sure about analogies for other countries).
Im not an expert on this, but it seems like Ms was worried that success of Limux would be the drip that starts the trickle so to speak. It made sense for them to do whatever it took to patch that leak.
Things have really changed since then though. Valve has been very successful in a Linux end user environment, and Eu is becoming disenfranchised from the US rather than Microsoft specifically.
I think Munich’s motivations were financial, but Frances will be ideological.
With these things in mind, the calculus has changed. That doesn’t necessarily mean France won’t fail, but id be surprised if Microsoft pursues them in the same way.
Don’t listen to that other commenter. They’re wrong about the Munich LiMux story. It keeps getting repeated but it’s not correct.
