Among them, “entering houses without permission to use the bathroom,” “break-ins,” “littering,” and people “defecating in private yards” and “complaining when residents catch them.”
I really don’t understand how a tourist can think any of this makes sense. Like, would they do this in their country too?
That’s… not the problem. And even if it was, the solution is absolutely not “I guess I’ll shit in that guy’s yard”. Go into a hotel lobby or coffee shop or bar or whatever, ask for the restroom (use your phone as a translator if you need to, because that’s a thing now), and do it there.
Also, what exactly are you suggesting “the problem” is, then? Because based on the rest of the thread, it sounds like most of the people refusing to name the problem are quietly (or loudly) encouraging Chinese racism.
dude its not racism chinese tourist on bad behaviour has happened for the last 10 years and documented on the news for that long, its chinese tourists from china. nobody said british, canadian or even uk chinese people.
Holy fuck, guy, it’s not racism against Chinese people. It’s frustration and irritation against tourists that behave heinously. Those tourists unfortunately happen to be predominantly Chinese. But if Americans or Russians or Brazilians or Indians were doing it, we’d all be having the same reaction. Stop borrowing outrage.
If you’re a guest in a country, don’t be a shithead.
If you and your countrymen are consistently shitheads to another specific country and their citizens when a guest in said specific country, they’re liable to start changing things to discourage you from coming in the first place, or even make rules to discourage you from visiting in the first place. You are a guest. Fucking act like it.
The sakura festival went of without a hitch for decades. This is a recent development that came with Chinese tourists beginning to go to the festival a lot more. When you are a tourist, the onus is on you to do some prep work and understand any preparations you should be making. Shitting in someone’s yard is indefensible; a reasonable preparation for the festival is “take a shit at your hotel before going to the festival”. I do not understand why you find this hard to parse.
It’s not prejudice. It’s common sense and actuarials.
Elsewhere in this thread, it definitely sounds like that’s the problem? People are saying these are residential neighborhoods where the only public restrooms are in a park, and they were already packed and overflowing.
Tourists are usually mindful of the country they’re visiting, but then most Mainland Chinese are former farm peasants who suddenly got wealthy for some reason and live in big cities, so able to even travel abroad, but unfortunately have little to no understanding of etiquette and how to properly conduct themselves elsewhere.
about the damn unable to find the toilet: I’m sure some have trouble communicating in a foreign country, or worse, unable to comprehend symbology, they end up rolling back to default behavior by just squatting and dumping where they see as convenient to them.
It still feels weird though.
Farm peasants over here, know to shit in farm areas where it would actually serve as manure, rather than right next to the street.
I would also assume they actually dig before and cover later.
usually its very unsanitory to shit in your crops, because you spread bacteria that is more harmful other people. its different from a cows dung feces over humans. E-coli being one of them, thats why they use manure of herbivorious animals over carnivores/omnivores, meat eaters have more potential to have parasites too, in the old ways. but they use synthetical manufactuered fertilizers to avoid the problems altogether.
Yeah, despite the older traditions, it is nowadays not recommended to shit directly in the crop area. And turns out traditions of a time only work at that time and place, which might depend upon other, seemingly unrelated traditions.
But it would still be better off under the soil than on a paved street.
I guess I understand another reason for that in China. Because most of them ate some sort of meat, shitting in the fields might have ended up being a bad practice.
But still, what’s up with shitting on the streets? Did they somehow just rely on the dogs to clean up the streets?
farm peasonts that have always lived there at least for hundreds or thousands of years vs american farm peasants who have been there for like 320 years max, like peasant culture is more modern/new here than other countries
I am in India. I know people that live in farm areas or have lived there in their childhood (farmer relatives).
I’m pretty sure their culture is older than just 320 years, but they didn’t go around defecating on or next to the streets, which I can say because the streets were not full of human shit. Although there would be the occasional dog shit and then large piles of sun-dried cow shit (which would also be much farther away from the streets).
Any civilisation that survives through enough disease outbreaks would have at least a rudimentary understanding of environmental cleanliness. If people are dirtying places despite that, then I consider that a reflection of accumulated malice.
Weirdly, you don’t see that behavior from Chinese tourists in China. Well I did see one dude have hus toddler piss on the floor of a train because the bathroom was occupied, but he got yelled at, because in chinese culture, its considered disrespectful to piss on the floor. They even have a concept called “别他妈的往地板上撒尿”.
its probably farm people vs city people, the latter has more etiquette than the rural folks. alot of rural chinese suddenly became RICH overnight, so they havnt adapted to proper etiquette.
I don’t know, I’ve seen grown ups pissing in the park in Shanghai, not somewhere deep in the bushes but right beside the pavement and buildings. That was not indoors, at least
Oh they do wipe. They preemptively decided to shit in public.
It’s worse that they do wipe. They don’t take their tissues with them and drop it on their poop and the wind starts terrorizing the local people cuz that tissue becomes a moving bio weapon.
I had the absolute fortune to make my way through there at the end of last year. It was so bizarre to me that for the most part people are left alone to follow the rules with no oversight
And for the most part I saw everyone behaving well and not doing anything stupid; except the group of people trying to take pictures of a bison who was clearly unhappy about how close they were getting. He was grazing and would walk away a couple steps and they would follow. The boi was swishing his tail and showing what I saw were “leave me the fuck alone” signs and I had to at least shout to the people to leave him alone and they were fucking idiots. I was HOPING that they got charged and had some sense knocked into them
My partner and I had had discussions previously about what we’d do if something like that was about to happen and the kiddo in the car. If it’s just us adults then we’ll stay and watch the carnage but we’ll take off if they’re with us
I really don’t understand how a tourist can think any of this makes sense. Like, would they do this in their country too?
trashy chinese tourists, i have heard over the years the ones from china are especially bad, and very feral.
They played too many JRPGs and got the wrong idea
There is no reasonable explanation here except inadequate availability of public restrooms for the amount of tourists.
That’s… not the problem. And even if it was, the solution is absolutely not “I guess I’ll shit in that guy’s yard”. Go into a hotel lobby or coffee shop or bar or whatever, ask for the restroom (use your phone as a translator if you need to, because that’s a thing now), and do it there.
Also, what exactly are you suggesting “the problem” is, then? Because based on the rest of the thread, it sounds like most of the people refusing to name the problem are quietly (or loudly) encouraging Chinese racism.
dude its not racism chinese tourist on bad behaviour has happened for the last 10 years and documented on the news for that long, its chinese tourists from china. nobody said british, canadian or even uk chinese people.
Holy fuck, guy, it’s not racism against Chinese people. It’s frustration and irritation against tourists that behave heinously. Those tourists unfortunately happen to be predominantly Chinese. But if Americans or Russians or Brazilians or Indians were doing it, we’d all be having the same reaction. Stop borrowing outrage.
Either you have not read this comment section, or you are deliberately misconstruing it to feel more comfortable with yourself.
If you’re a guest in a country, don’t be a shithead.
If you and your countrymen are consistently shitheads to another specific country and their citizens when a guest in said specific country, they’re liable to start changing things to discourage you from coming in the first place, or even make rules to discourage you from visiting in the first place. You are a guest. Fucking act like it.
The sakura festival went of without a hitch for decades. This is a recent development that came with Chinese tourists beginning to go to the festival a lot more. When you are a tourist, the onus is on you to do some prep work and understand any preparations you should be making. Shitting in someone’s yard is indefensible; a reasonable preparation for the festival is “take a shit at your hotel before going to the festival”. I do not understand why you find this hard to parse.
It’s not prejudice. It’s common sense and actuarials.
Elsewhere in this thread, it definitely sounds like that’s the problem? People are saying these are residential neighborhoods where the only public restrooms are in a park, and they were already packed and overflowing.
Even if that is true, how is “I will shit in this random residential yard” a reasonable solution to that?
or break into japanese households to use thier bathrooms.
It’s not, the reasonable solution is to provide more restrooms. But it apparently didn’t happen, thus the unreasonable solution.
China. These are China-nese tourists. They used to do the same shit in Taiwan before the government banned them.
I saw a mom put their kid on the trashcan so he could pee into a trash can. This was an indoor mall.
Tourists are usually mindful of the country they’re visiting, but then most Mainland Chinese are former farm peasants who suddenly got wealthy for some reason and live in big cities, so able to even travel abroad, but unfortunately have little to no understanding of etiquette and how to properly conduct themselves elsewhere.
about the damn unable to find the toilet: I’m sure some have trouble communicating in a foreign country, or worse, unable to comprehend symbology, they end up rolling back to default behavior by just squatting and dumping where they see as convenient to them.
It still feels weird though.
Farm peasants over here, know to shit in farm areas where it would actually serve as manure, rather than right next to the street.
I would also assume they actually dig before and cover later.
usually its very unsanitory to shit in your crops, because you spread bacteria that is more harmful other people. its different from a cows dung feces over humans. E-coli being one of them, thats why they use manure of herbivorious animals over carnivores/omnivores, meat eaters have more potential to have parasites too, in the old ways. but they use synthetical manufactuered fertilizers to avoid the problems altogether.
What about herbivorous humans :P
Yeah, despite the older traditions, it is nowadays not recommended to shit directly in the crop area. And turns out traditions of a time only work at that time and place, which might depend upon other, seemingly unrelated traditions.
But it would still be better off under the soil than on a paved street.
I guess I understand another reason for that in China. Because most of them ate some sort of meat, shitting in the fields might have ended up being a bad practice.
But still, what’s up with shitting on the streets? Did they somehow just rely on the dogs to clean up the streets?
farm peasonts that have always lived there at least for hundreds or thousands of years vs american farm peasants who have been there for like 320 years max, like peasant culture is more modern/new here than other countries
I am in India. I know people that live in farm areas or have lived there in their childhood (farmer relatives).
I’m pretty sure their culture is older than just 320 years, but they didn’t go around defecating on or next to the streets, which I can say because the streets were not full of human shit. Although there would be the occasional dog shit and then large piles of sun-dried cow shit (which would also be much farther away from the streets).
Any civilisation that survives through enough disease outbreaks would have at least a rudimentary understanding of environmental cleanliness. If people are dirtying places despite that, then I consider that a reflection of accumulated malice.
My parents were shitting out in the fields in punjab growing up, or they claim at least lol
Most probably they did.
Weirdly, you don’t see that behavior from Chinese tourists in China. Well I did see one dude have hus toddler piss on the floor of a train because the bathroom was occupied, but he got yelled at, because in chinese culture, its considered disrespectful to piss on the floor. They even have a concept called “别他妈的往地板上撒尿”.
its probably farm people vs city people, the latter has more etiquette than the rural folks. alot of rural chinese suddenly became RICH overnight, so they havnt adapted to proper etiquette.
I don’t know, I’ve seen grown ups pissing in the park in Shanghai, not somewhere deep in the bushes but right beside the pavement and buildings. That was not indoors, at least
It’s a frequent issue in Hong Kong too where people from the mainland will just shit right in the street and walk away like its no big deal.
I was not aware that mainland China had designated shitting streets.
Huh
why is there a poop deck on ships if not for pooping
how do they wipe?
i dont think they do.
Oh they do wipe. They preemptively decided to shit in public.
It’s worse that they do wipe. They don’t take their tissues with them and drop it on their poop and the wind starts terrorizing the local people cuz that tissue becomes a moving bio weapon.
They don’t.
Really though people carry toilet paper in China because public restrooms don’t have it.
BS from a sinophobe
You’ve apparently never met Chinese tourists…
right like this is a whole new level of unhinged
Absolutely
I live in Wyoming, near Yellowstone. The shit tourists do would blow your mind. Chinese tourists are hands down the worst. Comically bad.
I had the absolute fortune to make my way through there at the end of last year. It was so bizarre to me that for the most part people are left alone to follow the rules with no oversight
And for the most part I saw everyone behaving well and not doing anything stupid; except the group of people trying to take pictures of a bison who was clearly unhappy about how close they were getting. He was grazing and would walk away a couple steps and they would follow. The boi was swishing his tail and showing what I saw were “leave me the fuck alone” signs and I had to at least shout to the people to leave him alone and they were fucking idiots. I was HOPING that they got charged and had some sense knocked into them
My partner and I had had discussions previously about what we’d do if something like that was about to happen and the kiddo in the car. If it’s just us adults then we’ll stay and watch the carnage but we’ll take off if they’re with us
https://www.instagram.com/touronsofnationalparks/?hl=en
https://youtube.com/@touronsofyellowstone
Why would they come to the shithole US?
err… to “shit” of course.?
I felt bad you lost your own upvote, so have mine!
I was saving it for you.
Am also in Wyoming and can confirm.
They do