• MachineFab812@discuss.tchncs.de
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    Cool. Stop trying to tax their foreign income then. Helping your citizens escape a warzone you created is near bare-minimum standard for “country” status, let-alone “first-world superpower”.

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      These aren’t all expats. Most are normal Americans who were going about normal travels. There was no warning for anyone to change plans ahead of the American lead terror attacks.

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        Uncle Sam’s not going to care about that if they have to make money where they are to find their way home. “We won’t turn our overseas tourists into stranded expats who owe us taxes for the privilege of affording to come home” is the implicit promise being broken.

        Expats are supposed to be able rely on the US government to help them get home in a pinch as-well, else they might as well ALL renounce their citizenship.

        EDIT: highlighted, not added, the words “turn” and “into”, for those convinced any and all American tourists left to their own devices can make it home before January without a dime more than they’ve brought with them, from countries whose transportation and monetary infrastructure are and are going-to-be subject to repeated and un-predictable disruption for the forseeable future, to say nothing of the availability and affordability of room and board.

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          You seem to have a broken definition of what an expat is. A tourist is not an expat.

          Expats belong on the bottom of the list for people to evacuate.

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            Ex-pats paid-up on their taxes are entitled to all of the protections any other citizen is entitled-to, else what are they paying those taxes for?

            Your argument falls doubly-flat when the US isn’t even bothering to assist the tourists, so I’m not getting where you feel this thread is the place to remind everyone that you believe expats to be the scum-of-the-earth because …

            … because what? They realized US Citizenship is worth more than US residence? Or rather, it was, until now. Oh, and this state of things is magically their fault too.

            Must be why Republicans are pushing so hard to disenfranchise them, and even/espescially their children, because when one thinks scum-of-the-earth, we can’t neglect to despise those born in foreign lands without the good sense to return to the land of their parents birth. Hard pass, miss me with that non-sense.

            You seem confused in thinking I see “ex-pat” as a desirable, enviable, or admirable status. On the contrary, while I don’t believe one should have to give up citizenship in one country to live in another, I don’t see for a second why money earned in one country should be taxed anywhere else - taxes should be paid to the country where that money is earned.

            Even said country charging ex-pats more than its own citizens would make more sense, but every penny in taxes paid to the US from Ex-pats is money that would otherwise go to their local economy - arguably money being extracted from it. Nothing more or less than a tool of Empire.

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      Dude, their feud with Anthropic is over their desire to use AI for mass domestic surveillance and fully autonomous killing machines.

      The nazis are literally building skynet and big brother. Abandonment should be the least of Americans concerns. The immediate threat is already enslavement and mass murder.

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      Of course they matter!

      Photos of their corpses will be splashed across every news outlet in a vain attempt to gin up support for this war in the US.

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    That was to be expected. How was the State Department supposed to know that (checks notes) its boss would start a war in the middle of peace negotiations?

    The story goes that Philip K Dick, the notable sci-fi author, wrote his famous novel, The Man in the High Castle in part by choosing plot twists at random, using the I Ching. I see his fine opus at work here, too. 2026 is the year of the random plot twists.