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    Two things can be true! I believe in the liberation of the working class but I also believe that a boot stomping on a human face forever is the best way to get there!

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    i need to start saving these for some libs in the wild.

    “yeah let me pretend to be nuanced here” fuck off lol

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    But also … just because something is used by the US as propaganda doesn’t necessarily mean it’s untrue.

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      Look into literally every war they supported, it’s always false pretenses. They instigated Kuwait to get in trouble with Iraq, then told Iraq they wouldn’t oppose them invading Kuwait, then after Iraq invaded the US media apparatus lied everywhere that Iraqis disconnected hundreds of babies from incubators, killing them.

      Still with Iraq, they told the world that Saddam Hussein had WMDs, that they had to be stopped for the safety of all USAmericans. Even though the weapons inspectors said it was patently false. The US invaded, many European countries supported them. After a very painful invasion where it’s estimated between hundreds of thousands to a million Iraqis were murdered by the US and their allies (and many, many more when you count those who died from other factors caused by the invasion, such as lack of infrastructure, hospitals, food, etc), after all of this did they find WMDs? Take a guess.

      The US told us that Gaddafi was using mass rape against his enemies, and people believed it until after they bombed Libyans to rubble. Turns out, they lied.

      Amnesty International curiously enough lied as well, they echoed the claims about Kuwait babies killed by the Iraqi army and the mass rape by Gaddafi’s troops until after the US punished those countries and their peoples severely. Then they went back on their word, because as it turns out they were lying. So if even organizations that occasionally do decent work can’t be trusted not to amplify imperialism, how can we trust those that are even worse?

      Can you trust the same newspapers that have told us for years that no genocide is happening in Gaza? That we should condemn Hamas? That Israel has the most moral army? We saw with our own eyes what they did and still do to children in Gaza. And to this day BBC, NYT and others still frame Israel as victims of aggression, and the real victims as untrustworthy terrorists. We can’t trust a word about anything involving politics because even now they lie through framing, through omission.

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        True true, and their ‘justifications’ for war are entirely bogus.

        But I just caution against over-correcting. Just because someone is an enemy of the US doesn’t mean they’re perfect. Or even good.

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          Sure, but I’ll defend any government protecting its people from being bombed by imperialists, after the war is over we can critique again.

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      Sure, reasonable: as long as we also apply that standard the next time someone says “Russian propaganda”. If we apply this standard universally, then we’re in a much better position to understand the world.

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      Correct me if I’m wrong. But… Are those being funded to do a colour revolution really “protestors”? Last I checked, those happen to be criminals and usually get executed. Especially if they commit terrorism and kill civilains

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      If you care about the people of Iran, why on Earth are you cheering for the forces that struck an elementary school and killed over 150 little girls in its opening hours? They are bombing water treatment plants. Have you not learned from Iraq?

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      Dear white people, regime change begins at home

      It’s amazing that White people (and those applying Whitening cream) can think, ‘My government has lied to me about every war before, has just killed a bunch of children in front of me, and is raping children personally, but they’re right about Iran, and I should really comment on it publicly.’

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      Oh look it’s a reddit fash lib that thinks that the US and Israel are bombing school girls to help the protesters in Iran

      istg every time i log into lemmy the time before i get forcibly reminded why i stopped doing that gets shorter

      Go back to reddit

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      Hell yeah dude you should stop altogether, it will be better for your blood pressure

      “Designated Enemy totally killed 90 morbillion protestors, the genocidal pedophile media told me so” get fuckin real chump

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    Who knew the world was full of quantum computers that can simulate an actual Schrödinger’s cat situation While also thinking in a very binary way with a red vs blue type situation like a double Schrödinger’s cat-ception

    The media is evil and all our elected officials are evil