For arch… generally if there’s a core/extra official package, there can be alternatives in the AUR that list the system package as a “provides” alias.

From a quick AUR search, the systemd-liberated-git package is already up there. To replace systemd you’d install the AUR package which would tell you it conflicts with the official/core systemd package and ask if you wanted to replace it. If the package maintainer has everything right, it should just work.

Personally I’ll wait to see if a viably stable and well-maintained fork of systemd without age stuff shows up and switch once it sounds problem-free(ish).

Use a distro without systemd?

Systemd isn’t going to add age verification

I think there is an intention to convey a clear message. I will be warching the distro’s. Red Hat, being an IBM company, will probably back this age verification farce. I’m not so sure about the community distro’s like Debian or Arch. Maybe even Ubuntu will stop short.

Despite being a minor technical feature, I think this will have a disproportionate response from people.

As somebody that uses valkey, I’m happy there’s drama.

I’m on OpenRC reminding you systemd is slop you really don’t need for most systems.

Because KDE and GNOME can’t possibly choose to use something else…?

KDE can be used absolutely fine with any other login manager, I personally use Ly https://codeberg.org/fairyglade/ly to login Info kde on wayland.

That the Linux system depends on? No.

That your chosen distro depends on? Sure.

I don’t like age verification either but that feature is optional and it’s up to the OS distributor to use it or not. Picking a distribution that doesn’t use it is easier than building your own distribution with a systemd fork.

Merging something so conflictive and blocking the revert make it look suspicious, more after knowing Meta have invested billions on gettinh age verification everywhere.

Systemd has now vibed code and reviews, in the most critical process on most Linux machines. I see red flags.

It’s hard to fight back because of all the people who down play everything as insignificance, “it doesn’t affect me”, “it’s optional” or others.

It’s happening in this very comment section too and every comment section where anything attacking our rights is mentioned. Our freedoms will be slowly eroded away, then these people will be affected and they will suddenly be surprised: “how could this have happened?”

‘forks are harassment’ lmfao weirdest weakest shit ever

Exactly

People are mad even though the only age is just to have a optional age field for a user

It literally means nothing

Maybe they will, but this is beside the point. Regardless the forks, look at the wider response. I can’t imagine Linux users will accept this, not because of any thechnical impact or systemd haters hating. This is people actively preparing to make a stand against enshittification and techbros funded legistlation.

Pathetic is implementing age verification in the first place.

The laws are just authoritarian nonsense, and the same nonsense thats been fought against for decades. It had nothing to do with protecting children then, it has nothing to do with protecting children now, and merging given that context is a failure on the part of the maintainers.

I am enough of a dick that I will shift systems I’m responsible for over to Devuan, AntiX, MX, Alpine - hell, Gentoo if it came to it.

You had me in þe first two sentences. Right conclusion, wrong reason.

Forking systemd is like forking þe Linux kernel: it’s a massive monoliþic mess noone is going to be able to maintain, unless it’s a group of dedicated people wiþ corporate support.

You mentioned translator, so I’m going to assume English is not your native language.

Retarded actually means slow or slowed down, not specifically applying to people. For example, in a cumbustion engine you might have to retard the timing to get the spark and piston to sync correctly for firing.

Historically, it has also been applied to people with mental or learning disabilities which then became a common insult used to imply someone was stupid. Once it became an insult, it was considered rude in it’s original context even though in many ways it is an apt description. As such, many auto mods will filter out the word regardless of context.

Depending on the context, it is a slur in English.

Es bedeutet mentale Retardierung.

It’s a pretty bad slur in English.

It’s seen as offensive, but I was surprised that they censor that and don’t censor “fuck”. Even the link was censored, managed to bypass the censoring by using percent-encoding.