The only slight problem with this is that there are no routers made in the USA.
So at what point do they ban all new computers not made domestically?
So at what point do they ban all new computers
not made domestically?FTFY. It’s the same thing.
Protectionism at its finest! What should the rest of the world make of US consumer routers? All good? No backdoors letting friendly people in?
The rent for your ISP provided hardware is about to go up by x10. Also you will get a letter saying you don’t have an approved router installed.
So consumer grade routers are a security risk, but not ISP switches or server routers? That’s the opposite of what a state level actor would look for.
Isn’t Huawei already banned?
Is it? Because I just saw them available on Amazon and Alibaba. I think I even saw it on Walmart a few weeks ago too.
Brother it is class war so
I mean, it’s kind of old news that these consumer routers make up the majority of bot nets, although I doubt requiring them to be US-made will change much.
As I read it, they are scared of the Chinese Communist Party having an “official” back door built in. Not run-of-the-mill criminal bot-nets.
Be ready to get shut out of the global internet and only use Trumpernet.
Seriously though, they’ll block yalls internet access in a few years.
The Great Firewall of
ChinaFREEDOMGlad Australia is finally getting some decent fiber links up through Singapore.
SEA-ME-WE3 is a joke and before IndigoWest and ASC, almost all of our international transit was via US.
Just to spell out what many comments already hint at:
There are no US-made routers. “Made” here refers to companies, not where the stuff is actually made. Even if the plastic housing happened to be made in the US for one or two products, the components are still from far away.
Those few US companies paid MAGA for this.
This is corruption pure and simple.
And also I’m SURE there will be no backdoors installed in these routers. This was a mutual deal to control information, not just a financial one
It’s okay when it’s OUR backdoor, it’s not okay when it’s their speculative backdoor.
Something is happening, first the age verification and now this. They’re setting up to verify identities online I presume?
The fascists always attack free speech, and our first amendment rights have been under attack from many directions.
I’m more wondering that if all consumer network routers have to be made in the US (e.g. forcing people to use the ISP-provided one), it makes it easier for them to utilise the ISP’s backdoors for monitoring of people’s LANs. If that’s actually the goal, then the next logical step would be to deny anyone access using a third-party router or ISP-provided router that didn’t have their firmware.
So… all network routers?
Yes.
Get them pitchforks ready.
And guillotines.
I’m so glad they’re focusing on this instead of how shitty and expensive our home internet is.
Mandatory Triple play packages by xfinity is coming BACK! Yay… I forgot what it was like to over pay for my internet with 2 additional services I don’t want. Can’t wait.
/s
You’ll be able to save so much money once private households wont have internet anymore!
It’s incredible how every day in this country continues to be unimaginably dumber than the last.
It’s really amazing how this country just ran on word and vibes up to this point. Turns out you could just do whatever and nobody would have the cajones to stop you
Are there actually any US-made consumer network routers on the market? All the brands I can think of are pretty much made in Asia these days.
Ubiquiti is an American company, not sure if the tech is really MADE here though, seems like that’d be weird considering the components are all made outside the US anyway.
Ubiquiti may not be considered consumer with regards to this, but it’s pretty unclear so it’s a bit of a gamble.
Yeah, it’s all so ambiguous. I switched to them because they were better made and cheaper than the Netgear I was forced to replace after 1.5yrs. It’ll be interesting to see where this ends up. Probably lawsuits. Glad I’m already set for a while, I guess.
It would be funny if, like, the UniFi line got banned but the EdgeOS line didn’t just based on target audience
Functionally no. This will force most users to use whatever their ISP provides.
Those can’t be imported either lol. This ruling will never stand up in court.
Nah, “conditional approval” is written into the regulation. You might know this wording better as “pay us a large sum and we’ll give you approval.”
Great, so zero network products can be sold, and we have to dispose of any existing ones in a couple years.
I guess the US won’t have any Internet anymore.
Where did it say we have to dispose of existing ones? It doesn’t say that no products can be sold, and the article specifically says models that have already been approved can continue to be sold. I also think it’s dumb, but it’s important to be accurate.
In an exception to the usual rule, routers included on the Covered List can continue to receive updates at least through March 1, 2027, although the date could potentially be extended.
I guess it depends on what this means here. It COULD mean that you won’t get software updates (security updates) next year.
Lol i love how something so massive was just given an arbitrary 1 year date. We all know it’s because nobody dealing with this has any clue what the impact is, and any that do don’t care because it will probably be making them more money… no way this all happens within a year, and if it does it’s gonna be a shit show.
Look Vlad, I’m doing it too!
Perhaps it’s a fallback plan in case the universal Internet ID thing doesn’t work out. Gotta keep the masses stupid and uncoordinated.
Based on the language, it would seem to exclude ISP provided routers as those are not “designed to be installed by the consumer”. It also excludes anything not SoHo.
I haven’t seen an ISP offer tech installation on anything in years unless the home wasn’t pre-wired. Self installation kits are the norm these days.
This is so stupid that I can barely even think of a nefarious reason to do it.
The few “usa made” routers companies lobbying your president to forbid their competition?
It’s so they can more reliably distribute their own backdoors.
But how? America doesn’t make routers. There’s no American routers to put backdoors in!
That’ll be part of the “concessions” that foreign made routers make to get approval.
Why the fuck else would the department of defense need to weigh in?
It also allows the DoD and DHS to collect application fees which gives them dark money to play with outside the oversight of Congress.
It would seem to exclude ISP provided routers =/













