A good number of strips will be pre-cropped, or the equivalent. So what you’d really want when the signature’s missing is to have the poster do reverse-image as necessary so as to identify the creator, making sure to include that information.
There’s also the fact that doubtless there will be posters ignoring such a rule / guideline, ideally necessitating mod intervention. Meanwhile, the one and only mod looks like they haven’t been active in a month.
Images with the creator’s name cropped shouldn’t be shared anyway, plus they’re usually deep-fried and look like a blurry mess. People should be looking for originals to replace the crappy quality ones.
Well, woulda-coulda-shoulda. It’s nice that people are willing to make suggestions and discuss the issue, but in cases like this, it actually needs someone to join the mod team here and then apply their vigilance on an ongoing basis towards stuff that broke the rules.
There are some good suggestions in the comments, like providing a link on how to reverse image search to the sidebar to make it easier to find originals. It would be best if it were something that was encouraged rather than strictly enforced.
For Firefox, there’s a super-handy extension that lets you right-click on an image and then gives you a choice of eight different services (or all of them) to reverse-image search. I use it all the time.
Regardless, even going in the low-maintenance ‘suggestion, not a hard guideline’ route would require an active mod here to at the very least add the suggestion to the sidebar. Currently, there isn’t one, seemingly. This gets in to sort of a Meta issue about communities that get abandoned to some extent. It’s a real problem across the Fediverse, and I don’t believe enough collective focus is happening to deal with the issue.
If you look at this thread, it’s full of people saying, “yeah, let’s do this!” and “cool, sounds good!” but nobody in a position to act is effectively listening. This is what it looks like when there’s a bunch of chatter and nothing actually happens, sort of like a loud protest that doesn’t actually change anything.
Yeah, if there’s no active mod it’s a non-starter. But people don’t have any reason to know that’s the case. Considering how relatively big this community is (for Lemmy) it’s impressive it functions without a human mod as well as it does.
But people don’t have any reason to know that’s the case.
They can do the same thing I did, which was to click on the one mod here and see their activity history?
it’s impressive it functions without a human mod as well as it does.
I think that’s what naturally tends to happen when a community hits a critical mass of subscribers, combined with a highly popular subject. Also, this doesn’t strike me as a /c with much potential for controversy. *shrug*
Are there ways this could be implemented though that would not punish people who accidentally posted the wrong one though. You have a good idea, but we also have very few contributors on Lemmy and we don’t want to discourage that either.
Unlike Reddit, it’s possible to edit the link a post links to after the fact, so it’s possible to swap in an uncropped link later instead of just removing the post.
I’d be in favor of that. Not an instant ban rule but more of a “No link provided, please use TinEye or something to find the original and update your post”
This is the key. If someone shares something that may have the attribution missing or is too jpg, the post link can be edited to the better version.
If users are posting too many comics that are missing attribution without following through to update post links to versions with them, then they’ll get the book thrown at them and won’t be allowed to post anymore.
Here’s an idea: add easily accessible links so that even those less technologically inclined can easily reverse image search. Since many younger users are moving to Lemmy, they might not fully understand all the rules you’re trying to enforce.
If i actually lose my mind and agree to mod this sub in a few months i’m saving this so i can come back to it, I have to look up how to reverse image search every damn time. And one of my first jobs was working IT building computers and programming bullshit dammit I’m not completely tech naive, just stuck in windows 7 because fuck you microsoft.
anyways, thank you Rusty, I am making you Honorary Something. Whatever it is, whenever we think of it, you are it. That was a great idea.
Also, if you like the strip and have the time, help the person out and put up a signature or post the original with a signature, while reminding them that they should have posted a signature as well. These communities are a team effort.
True. Assuming they pay any attention to that one out of an unusually long list of sidebar rules. That doesn’t change the mod situation, either, and you’d need a mod to actually add that rule.
A good number of strips will be pre-cropped, or the equivalent. So what you’d really want when the signature’s missing is to have the poster do reverse-image as necessary so as to identify the creator, making sure to include that information.
There’s also the fact that doubtless there will be posters ignoring such a rule / guideline, ideally necessitating mod intervention. Meanwhile, the one and only mod looks like they haven’t been active in a month.
¯\(ツ)/¯
This is where I land as well. I fully support giving creators their credit, but this seems like a lot of red tape for very little payoff.
Images with the creator’s name cropped shouldn’t be shared anyway, plus they’re usually deep-fried and look like a blurry mess. People should be looking for originals to replace the crappy quality ones.
Well, woulda-coulda-shoulda. It’s nice that people are willing to make suggestions and discuss the issue, but in cases like this, it actually needs someone to join the mod team here and then apply their vigilance on an ongoing basis towards stuff that broke the rules.
There are some good suggestions in the comments, like providing a link on how to reverse image search to the sidebar to make it easier to find originals. It would be best if it were something that was encouraged rather than strictly enforced.
For Firefox, there’s a super-handy extension that lets you right-click on an image and then gives you a choice of eight different services (or all of them) to reverse-image search. I use it all the time.
Regardless, even going in the low-maintenance ‘suggestion, not a hard guideline’ route would require an active mod here to at the very least add the suggestion to the sidebar. Currently, there isn’t one, seemingly. This gets in to sort of a Meta issue about communities that get abandoned to some extent. It’s a real problem across the Fediverse, and I don’t believe enough collective focus is happening to deal with the issue.
If you look at this thread, it’s full of people saying, “yeah, let’s do this!” and “cool, sounds good!” but nobody in a position to act is effectively listening. This is what it looks like when there’s a bunch of chatter and nothing actually happens, sort of like a loud protest that doesn’t actually change anything.
Yeah, if there’s no active mod it’s a non-starter. But people don’t have any reason to know that’s the case. Considering how relatively big this community is (for Lemmy) it’s impressive it functions without a human mod as well as it does.
They can do the same thing I did, which was to click on the one mod here and see their activity history?
I think that’s what naturally tends to happen when a community hits a critical mass of subscribers, combined with a highly popular subject. Also, this doesn’t strike me as a /c with much potential for controversy. *shrug*
having a rule tells people “hey we want attribution in the strip so get those versions”
Are there ways this could be implemented though that would not punish people who accidentally posted the wrong one though. You have a good idea, but we also have very few contributors on Lemmy and we don’t want to discourage that either.
i mean we don’t have to make it a bannable offense, we just have to say “hey, go find the original if you can”. it’s a pretty relaxed community right?
sounds like the approach I’d appreciate.
Also, than you for the mod work.
someone’s gotta step up
Unlike Reddit, it’s possible to edit the link a post links to after the fact, so it’s possible to swap in an uncropped link later instead of just removing the post.
I’d be in favor of that. Not an instant ban rule but more of a “No link provided, please use TinEye or something to find the original and update your post”
This is the key. If someone shares something that may have the attribution missing or is too jpg, the post link can be edited to the better version.
If users are posting too many comics that are missing attribution without following through to update post links to versions with them, then they’ll get the book thrown at them and won’t be allowed to post anymore.
Here’s an idea: add easily accessible links so that even those less technologically inclined can easily reverse image search. Since many younger users are moving to Lemmy, they might not fully understand all the rules you’re trying to enforce.
This is A. Good. Point.
If i actually lose my mind and agree to mod this sub in a few months i’m saving this so i can come back to it, I have to look up how to reverse image search every damn time. And one of my first jobs was working IT building computers and programming bullshit dammit I’m not completely tech naive, just stuck in windows 7 because fuck you microsoft.
anyways, thank you Rusty, I am making you Honorary Something. Whatever it is, whenever we think of it, you are it. That was a great idea.
If it makes you feel any better, my laptop is still on Windows 7 lol. 🫡
So is my airgapped backup
Also, if you like the strip and have the time, help the person out and put up a signature or post the original with a signature, while reminding them that they should have posted a signature as well. These communities are a team effort.
True. Assuming they pay any attention to that one out of an unusually long list of sidebar rules. That doesn’t change the mod situation, either, and you’d need a mod to actually add that rule.
Nah, they can just not perpetuate stolen art. Keep it easy.
Sure, wave your magic wand and make that happen.
Sir, this is a post about discussing posting rules?
Yeah, and I’m implying that things aren’t going to happen just by wishful thinking.
It is possible to add more mods. Maybe OP is interested.
I think that’s the most practical solution here, and something I was hoping OP would realise at some point. Be the change, and all that.
@heythisisnttheymca@lemmy.world
i have reasons i can’t mod, especially right now, but maybe in a few months.