• bossito@lemmy.world
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      These resolutions are designed to make some countries look bad. Somewhere in the small print there’s a point unacceptable for the US and Israel, so they vote against and newspapers world-wide can report on how US and Israel alone blocked the end of famine.

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      The US has done things far worse than what North Korea has done. Every ten years your “democracy” bombs another country.

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    Israel will be responsible for a second holocaust against them. And this time no one will help.

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    And when that fertilizer shortage and soybean bullshit causes farmers to have a terrible harvest, and the U.S. asks for help from the world, I hope the world will reference this vote when they tell us no.

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      Most “human rights” are for corporations to buy politicians/media under state protection… and stuff like that.

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    Yea, and the US “vote” is actually a veto. The US needs to lose its UN veto power because of shit like this.

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      Honestly, the UN has been a farce for a long time because of this exact issue. If a handful of countries have veto power then the whole point of the group was moot from the beginning.

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        The whole point was to get people sitting at the same table to reduce risks of conflicts… Without veto power, some countries would never have joined, which is unfortunate.

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        Right, and the dumb part now is that nobody in the world expects this to mean shit. Even if it would have been unanimous.

        You don’t solve world hunger with UN votes. You solve it with technological and economical advancement, by advancing women’s rights and with better access to contraceptives.

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        Yes, but the US no vote was an automatic veto. They had to remove anything that affected the US and then get all the other UN members to vote on it just to get it to pass. Any P5 nation with veto power can pull the teeth out of a UN resolution.

        A “no” vote from a P5 is always a veto. When any of the P5 vote “no” in the Council, a resolution cannot move forward. Council members can, however, resolve their differences and propose new drafts for a vote by the Council. They can also call on a vote from the wider UN membership – the 193 Member States that make up the General Assembly (GA).

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        What makes you think the second number is not a no vote?

        In 2021 they published reasoning with they will vote no.

        I tried to find a definite source, unfortunately there’s no immediate discoverability or reference. Gemini claims “The Standard Format: [Yes] - [No] - [Abstentions]”.

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          “We also do not accept any reading of this resolution or related documents that would suggest that States have particular extraterritorial obligations arising from any concept of a “right to food,” which we do not recognize and has no definition in international law.”

          I imagine this is the part they really object to. Real “Fuck you, I’ve got mine.” energy.

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        The problem with this is that it’s either veto through vote or veto through force. The US can easily flip the table and walk out to try to enforce whatever it wants but that’s obviously bad for world peace so this is its ineffective but less destructive compromise.

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    The article would be better if it linked to the reasons for the no votes and critiqued them. Otherwise, it’s just low effort outrage bait. To be clear, I don’t think the no votes were justified. I just don’t like low effort outrage bait.

    Edit: Not https://geneva.usmission.gov/2017/03/24/u-s-explanation-of-vote-on-the-right-to-food/

    https://web.archive.org/web/20211127052643/https://usun.usmission.gov/explanation-of-vote-of-the-third-committee-adoption-of-the-right-to-food-resolution/

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      There will always be nitpicks whenever the resolution is not completely meaningless and devoid of any actionable steps. If the vote was started again just stating that nations are generally against starvation, then I’m sure the US would vote yes.

      But maybe not!

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        If the vote was started again just stating that nations are generally against starvation, then I’m sure the US would vote yes.

        lmao

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    Israel: we disagree because we don’t believe our enemies deserve human rights.

    USA: yeah, and can’t profit off of people or oppress foreigners if you guarantee people food, either.

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    Living in the US as somebody who pays attention to the world and cares about people and stuff is absolutely surreal sometimes.

    It’s especially so when you’re one of the last people to have had an analog childhood (The Oregon Trail generation represent) so all the adults you knew as a child grew up in the post-ww2 prosperity and genuinely believed all the American exceptionalism stuff.

    The only thing it seems we are best at is striking the perfect evil balance where I can’t decide if it feels more Black Mirror or more Hunger Games.

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        I’m sure my anecdote applies to people from all three, and even to some of the boomers that didn’t ingest as much lead and have kept their head on straight.

        When I mentioned The Oregon Trail generation though, that’s usually an Xennial label.

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    How to locate evil forces: start asking questions about human rights. Noted.