I’m tired of the way things are and am actually excited for BYD. They build really great electric vehicles and I saw one video where it charged up just as fact as refueling gasoline would be
While it’s exciting to have more EV options, we don’t know about how brand’s long term ownership is going like in NA yet.
They should have reliable network and infra for maintenance, repair and services. We’ll see it unfolds in a few years.
Yes I agree on investing more public transportation but it’s not going to happen anytime soon.
They build really great electric vehicles
Sure, and everything on TEMU is great.
I saw one video where it charged up just as fact as refueling gasoline would be
Those chargers do not exist in Canada. If they did, Doug Ford would rip them out.
He’d replace them with bike lanes just to have the opportunity to rip up yet another bike lane
I can’t wait for public transit to suck less in Canada.
We’ve got new skytrain lines being built in metro Vancouver right now, as well as public surveys on new busline proposals, and road conversion to dedicated bike lanes.
Good luck in Ontario though where DF is actively trying to halt health and progress for its residents
You may wait forever.
WestCoast is building more Skytrain infrastructure right now, and proposing new buslines. Dedicated bikelane proposals are also out for public review on best options. You just have to live in the parts of Canada that care about health and environment.
The metro system in montreal is getting worse and worse. The new montreal mayor is not a big fan of bike lane either
That is unfortunate, there is so much data out there on cities that went with bike lanes and transit and how it had health benefits for everyone (not just the walkers and bikers)
I’m sure most people love dropping their one kid off at soccer and getting their other kid to hockey practice while using the bus
the fuck ? The kid goes to hokey practice on the train then the other kid goes to soccer practice on the bus while you stay home.
Most people would not mind that, especially if transit got better. What’s your point?
Montréal has… okay level transit by North American standards. My kids can go over to the arena by themselves once they turn ten, taking the three stops by bus. Until then I’ll just bike with them.
North America just sucks, not because of distances. But because of shit transit and urban sprawl.
I remember seeing elementary kids use the subways in Hong Kong by themselves. In Japan there are kids everywhere taking themselves to and from school. Why does mom need a car to tote them around if the city and transportation are built out correctly.
Yeah, America acts like transit is not viable. Back in my mom’s era she was taking the city bus to school at 7 years old.
Just yesterday I was at an organized work event (at an events center), when it was done I walked across the street and got right on the bus, transfered at at a Norths-South East-West corner and dropped off a block from my house.
It’s actually more pleasant than driving because you don’t have to worry about idiot drivers, and I got to hear some locals exchanging recipe ideas, and where to buy the best avacados. 😀
When cities are built to live in this becomes a moot point.
Same thing happened in Brazil.
If you buy a BYD you’re buying something blatantly made with slave labor, and not some far off supplier that might hide it from them.
At least the govt tries to stop it, instead of instituting it.
As long as they aren’t a phone home device like the Superbox TV streaming devices.
Ironically another BYD post below this one https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/byd-hungary-china-labour-watch-9.7154249
Last time I visited China, I asked a few of my friends over there what they thought of BYD. They said they are bombs on wheels, and that the caught fire often.
I welcome more affordable electric vehicles, but there should be caution and safety testing for things as dangerous as a car. Especially from a country who’s industry is known for cutting corners to increase profits and has very little concern for human life.
People see some 🤡 on youtube counting cupholders and conclude it’s a reliable vehicle.
Canada still has its own safety standards that other manufacturers of goods need to meet if they’re going to import or produce within Canada, as far as I’m aware.
Why is BYD the only Chinese EV company that people talk about? There are other options that are just as good (and by many measures better).
Because they are very cheap for an EV but they don’t feel cheap when you experience them.
Talk to us in 5 salty years of CDN winters.
But, again, they aren’t the only ones in that category.
But is everything computer?
Are there any real advantages over a another nation’s EVs, besides cost? There’s the battery swapping infrastructure, but I kind of doubt they’d sink that level of money in, especially with a cap on possible car imports.
Their charging tech is insane. Like, 90% battery in the time it takes to use the bathroom kind of stuff. They’re also pushing hard into sodium battery tech that doesn’t catch fire, so their EVs are gonna be some of the safest in the world.
I would need serious reassurances about the safety (privacy) of their onboard software if I was going to buy one, but their tech is bloody brilliant.
I think because China is subsidizing their EVs then that’s why it’s cheap and people will buy cheap.
Canada subsidizes all automakers. So why are our vehicles shit and overpriced?
That, and just lower cost of labour.
It seems likely they’re going to ship the models with the best margin, though, and those are not the cheap ones.
I hope they bring their electric buses too.
BYD was building electric buses in Newmarket, Ontario. They were so shit, Toronto stopped using them and they shut down after lawsuits. This is what y’all can’t wait for.
I am not able to read the article. It only shows the headline for me.
I found an article with similar title that lists the reasons as:
- Significant delays in obtaining replacement parts, taking up to 73 days for a single rear axle.
- Poor quality of repair manuals and a lack of diagnostic tools in English.
- Insufficient engineering support from BYD during operations.
Does that match the article you shared? Is there more to it?
Don’t we have a pretty good electric bus factory in Manitoba? I thought New Flyer is doing good cause most new bus here are electric.
I am learning a lot from this thread, thanks for sharing. It seems that 1 in 3 buses in NA are from New Flyer.
Also, I like their proposition of having a centre median boarding platform. https://youtu.be/Xhw66RpevsM Some few decades ago, I heard about some cities solving bus traffic by using the centre of the street for public transport.
The (small number of) TTC electric buses are BYD. They got built in Newmarket but I think the production stopped due to some issues. A larger scale attempt might be needed. :D That said, we might want to try that with sodium-ion batteries.
the production stopped due to some issues
💩 was the issue.
That is cool! I heard when they did the procurement a while ago, but I did not know what happened after. It is great to know that they were made here.
I think once we have plenty of buses (and other EVs) around, the battery recycling will catch up. Just like it happened with the lead-acid.
Same. It will be nice when Westerners see how much they’ve been getting screwed over by the people they put in charge.
