Oh, definitely. But that’s also where the “upfront” part could have saved them: If they had contacted you and been direct about “hey, I’m selling utilities now, would you be interested in switching?”, then followed up with “on another note, it’s been a while, wanna grab dinner and catch up a bit?” That would have been a completely different story.
no, that was just the normal cost of power in norrbotten from 2010 to 2020. varying by time of day, of course. 18 öre/kWh was peak price.
now that i’m no longer living up there i’m forced to cough up more than 5 times the price. they raised it from 60 öre/kWh to 250 when inflation was real bad, now we’re down to like 120 öre/kWh. it’s shocking how bad it has become with increased interconnectivity in the european grid.
Edit: I’m an idiot who can’t read. of course you’re right, it’s two cents.
germany doesn’t split the power grid into cost regions, like most other countries. that means you get the same price everywhere, regardless of if you live in an area with a power surplus or a deficit. as far as i understand germany, most generation is in the north and most heavy industry is in the south. with cost regions, the north would have cheaper electricity and the south would have reason to invest in generation capabilities. as it is, your power is expensive everywhere and you need to import a lot.
sweden has lots of surplus capacity in the north, but not the infrastructure required to get all that power to the south. when germany buys a lot of our power, the extra demand drives up the price in the southern region, which means they need to “buy” power from further north, which pulls those prices up with it.
there has been some talk here about putting “export duties” on electricity to prioritise domestic users, but i don’t know if the eu allows for that.
Oh, definitely. But that’s also where the “upfront” part could have saved them: If they had contacted you and been direct about “hey, I’m selling utilities now, would you be interested in switching?”, then followed up with “on another note, it’s been a while, wanna grab dinner and catch up a bit?” That would have been a completely different story.
not to mention he’d lived with me. he knew we paid like 0.2¢/kWh. no way he’d get me to switch.
Point two cents per kWh? Holy hell; that’s 75 times less than the US average. Were you feeding a ton of rooftop solar back into the grid or something?
no, that was just the normal cost of power in norrbotten from 2010 to 2020. varying by time of day, of course. 18 öre/kWh was peak price.
now that i’m no longer living up there i’m forced to cough up more than 5 times the price. they raised it from 60 öre/kWh to 250 when inflation was real bad, now we’re down to like 120 öre/kWh. it’s shocking how bad it has become with increased interconnectivity in the european grid.
Edit: I’m an idiot who can’t read. of course you’re right, it’s two cents.
Cries in german energy prices
oh no that was a few years ago. we are very much suffering from your prices now. they’re dragging the whole of europe along.
I can see from the available data energy prices across Europe have indeed become somewhat homogeneously.
I can’t find any sensible source that speaks about germanys role. Care to elaborate?
germany doesn’t split the power grid into cost regions, like most other countries. that means you get the same price everywhere, regardless of if you live in an area with a power surplus or a deficit. as far as i understand germany, most generation is in the north and most heavy industry is in the south. with cost regions, the north would have cheaper electricity and the south would have reason to invest in generation capabilities. as it is, your power is expensive everywhere and you need to import a lot.
sweden has lots of surplus capacity in the north, but not the infrastructure required to get all that power to the south. when germany buys a lot of our power, the extra demand drives up the price in the southern region, which means they need to “buy” power from further north, which pulls those prices up with it.
there has been some talk here about putting “export duties” on electricity to prioritise domestic users, but i don’t know if the eu allows for that.