• insight06@lemmy.world
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    18 hours ago

    Downvote and move on. I’m trying to figure out why so many people are actively campaigning against this artist.

    • She’s a woman on the internet, so already a bad start. At some point she had a mental breakdown from all the harassment and threatened dmca or something else (I’m fuzzy on the details) against her harassers. This pissed off a lot of people and the internet never forgives. Whether or not her actions were justified and my opinions on the matter are both beyond the scope of this comment.

      So anyone defending pizzacake gets accused of being a white knight. Those exist, sure, but you can also just see the harassment and come to the reasonable conclusion that’s not right.

      Furthermore, anyone criticizing her gets labeled as a misogynist. This is perfectly understandable, outright misogyny will get you banned so instead they just repeatedly insist on reasonably sounding complaints. It’s impossible to tell the difference between someone who’s actually a critic vs someone who just hates pizzacake for being a woman with opinions. To keep going, the overwhelming consensus here is that people would rather see shitty napkin drawings over ai “art”. Funhole looks like ass, but people (myself included) love it. But for some reason all these people celebrating shitty comics and bad but human made art are silent when it comes to pizzacake, and instead everything she does is “lazy” and “uninspired” and “poorly drawn”.

      I think that about covers it, more or less.

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        How was my comment “lashing out”? It’s a legitimate criticism. And criticizing a comic means I have nothing going on in my life?

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          I don’t think you’re “wrong” but I didn’t think that’s the creators intention. I think they are just trying to get across that instead of dumping on someone because of how they feel, you can just embrace it and even include humor.

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      Why shouldn’t we point out shameless grifting? She’s a Canadian who pumps out comics about American politics. And these comics are so popular they’re damn near unavoidable.

      Downvote and move on.

      The same applies to you. People are annoyed that this blatant strategy is succeeding while more deserving artist struggle to make it. You don’t like people criticizing Pizzacake for doing so. We’re all expressing opinions on a forum, nothing wrong with that.

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        Residents of other countries criticising American politics is entirely acceptable, given their massive influence on the global stage. My fucking fuel prices are obscene at the moment, and that’s a direct result of the current regime’s arrogance and incompetence. And my gripe is absolutely trivial compared to many other less fortunate recipients of US foreign policy.

        I’ll take a simple protest comic over the latest bullshit headline coming from that shithole country every day of the week.

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          I agree, other people can and should criticize America. But that’s all she does. She doesn’t make any comics about Canadian politics, presumably because they don’t get the same traction. It’s a grift. Which might be fine if her comics were of good quality. But most of them read like this:

          Surely there are more clever ways to mock Trump/Elon/MAGA, etc. It would be great if we stopped supporting slop just because we agree with the message.

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            This Noel de le Pen sure has an interesting body of work.

            https://t.me/s/noellepen

            Even has a comic showing an interracial couple where a black man is depicted as a gorilla.

            Finding common cause with them should tell you something about your stance.

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              This argument is blatantly fallacious. If Alex Jones thinks the government is filled with pedophiles, the fact that he’s an idiot doesn’t make him wrong on that point: it damn sure doesn’t make everyone who agrees with Alex wrong. This is a guilty by association fallacy, a type of ad hominem.

              The fact that people are upvoting your ad hominem because it confirms their previously held opinion is, ironically, the exact complaint I had about Pizzacake comics. No one cares about whether it’s a good argument/comic, they will upvote regardless.

              In which case I’m wasting my time. These comments are just a popularity contest for opinions, no one cares about the substance.

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                angry sea lion noises

                Ultimately you’re attacking a person who puts out content supporting human rights, which is why the best criticism you could muster was from a neo nazi.

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            Sure, she’s got a niche. There’s plenty of other satire available if you’re not a fan. If it’s a grift, it’s not exactly harmful.

            I’ve watched plenty of absolutely basic comedians entertain a crowd in my time, but I don’t wish they were all Stewart Lee.

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          Residents of other countries criticising American politics is entirely acceptable

          It’s a global passtime.