I’m itching to play something like Cities Skylines, but also something that isn’t just about growing and growing, rather building within certain (spatial?) limitations and/or solving problems or something. I hope this isn’t a contradiction, but I’d also like if it had a bit more focus on individual buildings and livability rather than optimizing car traffic, if that makes any sense. I guess i’m looking for something that is a bit more than just a city sculpting sandbox, but less than a full blown metropolis-society-simulator.

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    Appreciate you asking this question. I’ve been on the hunt for something like this. I was thinking back to how much fun warcraft three was, which while it was a base builder, it’s basically the same principle. But different levels, an actual story, etc…

    A city builder or village builder following that track would be killer.

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    Against the storm sounds like a perfect fit. It’s in a fantasy setting though, so it’s quite different from Cities Skylines.

    The idea is that you build a village, collect resources, and try to survive until you complete objectives. Once you’re done, you earn some permanent progression and move on to the next area to build. Each zone has its own challenges and randomly generated resources.

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      against the storm isn’t fun for me idky I’m always not understanding why stuff isn’t working and then missing some specific resource and losing. i really want to enjoy it though. i found that timberborn is kinda a level-based city builder as long as you decide when you’ve “won”

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        When you select a place for a new settlement, you can look at which ressources are expected to be produced there based on the biome. Different biomes will have different ressources, some common and others absent entirely.

        As in many roguelikes, you can’t play assuming you’ll get a perfect build with what you have, in this case meaning the best resource transformation buildings. When you’re unlocking a building blueprint in a run, never choose based on things you don’t have yet, try to work with what you already have instead even if it’s not optimal. For example, choosing a bakery that produces max quality bread when you don’t have wheat or the building to harvest wheat might put you in a bad spot, where you’re hoping for a resource that never comes.

        After a few games you start unlocking more buildings and permanent bonuses which makes the game a lot easier, sometimes the seasoned players forget how tough it gets in a fresh new game.

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        I was super excited to try it out, and after spending about a week binging it, I came to the conclusion I didn’t have fun playing it.

        It did have a bit of a learning curve but once it clicks, you’re breezing along. It just didn’t fill my city building void.

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        It takes some getting used to, you can play the easy difficulties until you wrap your head around the mechanics. Once I got past the difficulty curve though I found it very fun.

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    Another +1 for Against the Storm. Timberborn also released recently and I lost a good bit of time to it. Timberborn has the sandbox build with multiple layers, and problem solving since you have to control water flow during three seasons (Wet, drought, tainted water) and manage resources.

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    banished is real good. it’s a medieval village sim. it’s also 6.50€ right now.

    i see everyone recommending against the storm, banished is basically “what if that game was colorless, depressing and brutally realistic”.

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    Not as good as Against the Storm, but I like how Tropico games are more about building through challenges than just building.

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    You’re looking for Against the Storm.

    It’s a rogue-like city-builder with goals that you meet and complete in order to move on to the next set of unique challenges. You’ll be faced with unique sets of challenges per biome, unique race-based sets of needs, and times events that need to be dealt with or their consequences will have to be mitigated.

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    If you are ok with factory ish games, I really liked the level based nature of “mindustry”. Factorio is more “you have any space you need, nature bends to your will”. And mindustry does some stuff where it’s similar production chain puzzling, but you are hard restricted by space. Which improves the puzzling, because not all solutions will fit everywhere.

    Otherwise I would also recommend against the storm.

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    Mini Metro is a small, fun goal-based building game. You are given subway stations and must build lines between them, optimizing for different destination types, high passenger rate, etc.

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    Terra Nil might be up your alley- You start in a barren landscape, you build structures to restore life to the earth. Once the land is healthy, you pack up all of your buildings, and fly them up to your spaceship, to try the same thing with the next area. It’s more of a “puzzle” game than a sim, but it’s fun, relaxed, and moves through different levels as they introduce new tech for different restoration projects.

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    It’s not strictly a city-builder, but the PS2’s Dark Cloud involved building cities to accommodate all of the inhabitants’ requirements. Each city was like a puzzle, where you had to arrange things in a particular way (with some degree of freedom) to avoid conflicts.

    Then there’s action-RPG combat and dungeons that might not be your style. But it’s a really great game. One of these days I really ought to play the sequel.

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    Workers and Resources Soviet Republic is an automation simulator masquerading as a city builder.

    The most played game right now on my Steam account is Workers and Resources: Soviet Republic, an automation game disguised as a city builder, with obscenely detailed mechanics. You don’t buy buildings, you have to have functional construction industries to set them up. You don’t magically draw colored lines to set up bus routes like in SimCity, you have to buy buses at the border one by one and then set up a maintenance schedule. You don’t highlight a dark patch on the map and suddenly have a metallurgy industry like in Cities: Skylines, the fuck you don’t, you need to set up a coal industry and rail transport over the course of thirty odd hours before you start cranking out steel. And that’s without even considering food production, alcoholism management, pollution from the necessary chemicals industry, storage and handling of fresh meat, and of course, citizen loyalty to the Party. It’s a fucking insane game by and for people who probably have to be insane themselves.

    I wrote that in a post about my strange relationship with games and media in general in my blog a few weeks ago.

    Definitely one of the most distinctly engrossing games I’ve ever played. Seriously. Your cities will be ugly as fuck because it’s genuinely difficult to progress.

    Reading your post over again maybe it’s a bit on the extreme side and not what you’re asking for. This is the most extreme city management I’ve ever played. Your sewers have to flow downhill, citizens driving in personal cars is something that happens after like 300 hours, if you sell too much oil too fast you can make oil cheaper on the global market and lose money. I hate it, I’ve wasted my life on it. It’s great I want to play more.

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      Really impressive game, but holy shit can it get complicated.

      The only city builder I’ve played where you have to purchase the asphalt and the equipment (dump trucks, rollers, etc.) and assign workers to build all roads.

      I think you can turn that off to simplify it, but still pretty cool

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    building within certain (spatial?) limitations

    Cliff Empire might interest you but I don’t remember if it had livability mechanic

    solving problems or something

    First Frostpunk

    within certain (spatial?) limitations (…) a bit more focus on individual buildings and livability

    Surviving Mars?

    Not a city builder, but maybe Oxygen not Included would be your match?

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    Maybe try Transport Fever 2. You’re not building a singular city. You’re building a logistics chain. You gather resources from their nodes. Transport them to processors. Then transport them to cities. The cities grow when they get more goods. Then you transport people across cities to help them grow. That’s the simplified version of it.

    The cities grow themselves but you can influence the way they grow. You can lay the roads, trains, planes, and boats out to help cities go a certain way. On the surface that may sound like what you don’t want, but that part of the game is so small compared to what you’ll be doing most of the time, which is connecting lines to gather resources. That’s the real puzzle of the game. Even on the big maps you’ll feel like there’s a limited amount of space. Then all of a sudden you have this spaghetti layout. You’ll want to optimize it. You’ll tinker with line options and layouts to maximize profits. Then you have to manage the whole fleet. Aging trucks and trains start losing money. Vehicles literally expire so you have to update them to newer models as time passes. Resource nodes and factories will go away and shift throughout a map. There’s an always changing nature to the map and it keeps you on your toes.

    It’s a deep game. It’s a modernized version of Transport Tycoon. If you want to try the retro version there’s OpenTTD. I’ve sunk a good chunk of time into Transport Fever 2 and it’s a much better game than Cities Skylines ever was.