Comment and thread in question: https://lemmy.world/comment/23138585
Ban from that community, memes@lemmy.ml:
Rule 1 of said community: Be civil and nice.
Rule 1 of said instance: No bigotry - including racism, sexism, ableism, homophobia, transphobia, or xenophobia. Code of Conduct.
I was clearly not bigoted in any manner, and I believe more civil than the way I was treated, was it the Code of Conduct? Excerpts:
Please be kind and courteous. There’s no need to be mean or rude.
Respect that people have differences of opinion and that every design or implementation choice carries a trade-off and numerous costs. There is seldom a right answer.
I think I was kind with the people I disagreed with, even if they could not be in return, yet those comments (some including ableist slurs) remain. I think this is enough to demonstrate it is merely a difference in ideology which motivated the ban. Well, bans, because it seems they copied and pasted the same ban in all the communities they have access to:
It’s not a general lemmy.ml ban, just those in particular.
I understand this kind of behavior in safe space communities that don’t want outsiders bellyaching about the pragmatism of electoral politics, but that’s not the case in any of the communities I’ve been banned from, nor is it a part of the instance rules or CoC.
PTB or triggered shitlib? Not an exclusive or, of course.
After seeing your reactions to mild criticism to millionaires who don’t care about you, you deserve more. Fuck off you diet fascist.
Edit: VGA, if you’re going to downvote everyone here, you could explain why you think people are wrong.
you coming here to expect people to be on your side and it’s going horribly also. you pathetic libs are just as bad as the conservatives. you uphold the same systems and parties that enable this shit to happen.
What did you expect by going to .ml instance and try to set a point that goes against the community’s ideology? You thought you’d change their minds? Convert them?
To put it simply, what would you expect to happen if you would go to Star Wars forum and told them that Star Wars is shit and Star Trek is better?
They like many others wanted to get banned to show how terrible it is they won’t allow op to be awful to others
DNC are subhuman trash that promote zionist supremacist first rule over the US for 90% of their candidates. True demonic evil that also serves corporatist/oligarchist power. GOP are far worse. Total zionist supremacists with added focus of Zionist first christofascism and white supremacism. Corporatist/Oligarchist supremacism is even stronger than incumbent power protection. All in on dead ender climate terrorist energy, and overt war goals to increase oil profits in complete lockstep with deranged lunatic in chief.
There absolutely is a big difference in voting block power, and in minimizing the oppression level of Americans. You should still vote for the lesser subhuman demonic zionazi evil.
There is strong potential for primary campaigns to oppose Israel supremacism of candidates, and even if opponents get 100x more funding, their demonic zionazi allegiances could theoretically harm their vote totals.
whaaaat the fuuuuck
oh, then there’s this bit from you:
why would Democrats not be the clear superior if only because they don’t cause needless suffering to interior minorities?
tell us you’re a white male without telling us. you are so out of touch with reality, it’s a wonder you can tie your fucking shoes.
PTB or triggered shitlib?
motherfucker, YOU are the triggered shitlib.
Yes, assuming Democrats and Republicans have 100% identical foreign policy, and the only difference is less oppression on marginalized groups, why does that not make them the clear superior choice in a two party election? Why are you willing to let more suffering happen because the lesser evil isn’t lesser enough?
If every election is a decision between the lesser of two evils and both evils become more evil over time then harm isn’t actually reduced in the long run.
The Democrats lost because they were genocidal. The Democrats are to blame for that, for being genocidal, not voters who refused to support genocide.
Do you want genocide? If not, you cannot in good conscious vote for a genocidal candidate. If you vote for genocide, and genocide happens, you got what you voted for.
Don’t like it? Take it up with the DNC.
and both evils become more evil over time
Has that actually happened though? There are certainly many issues Democrats have been improving on since Clinton.
The Democrats lost because they were genocidal
Irrelevant, I don’t care why they lost, I’m asserting that they would have been better. Thank you for your soapbox though.
The Democrats are to blame for that, for being genocidal, not voters who refused to support genocide
Sure, but those voters are also to blame for the non-genocide issues which get worse when the Democrats lose.
Do you want genocide? If not, you cannot in good conscious vote for a genocidal candidate. If you vote for genocide, and genocide happens, you got what you voted for.
This is simplistic thinking which ignores the reality of the situation. The only thing a voter can do in a general election is pick the party that more closely aligns with their values, that does not mean ALL of the party’s values are the voters, but simply the more palatable one.
So yeah, genocide sucks, but not doing your electoral part means all the extra bullshit Republicans do[1] is what you voted when you abstain.
1: since clearly the people who have problems with what I say don’t care about minorities being harassed, kidnapped, and killed, I’ll keep it simple with “doing nothing about the climate catastrophe” and “being egregiously pro-business/anti-consumer,” maybe with a side of “overwhelmingly anti-labor.”
Don’t like it? Take it up with the DNC.
Oh thank you for asking, I have actually.
and both evils become more evil over time
Has that actually happened though? There are certainly many issues Democrats have been improving on since Clinton.
There’s no way you can be serious. How sheltered are you?
Are you like some rich white guy who has no working class friends or something? I genuinely don’t understand.
There’s no way you can be serious. How sheltered are you?
How sheltered are YOU? America is a conservative country and things change slowly, but they do change. Some thing have improved in my lifetime, I don’t think that’s a controversial statement. Just because capitalism hasn’t been completely overthrown yet doesn’t mean there is no change.
I’m a union rep, so not sheltered at all. I have a front row seat to the degradation of society. Things have been consistently getting worse since the '70s at least.
Sure, some things have improved, nobody is denying that. Some things have improved, but many more significant things have gotten worse. The thing is, the stuff that has improved is like +5 improvement, and the things that have gotten worse is like -100.
TVs are cheaper, but food, rent and childcare are more expensive, all relative to wages, just for an example.
I want to go back a step, and try to understand you here. What do you do for work?
Things have been consistently getting worse since the '70s at least.
Well, except the acceptance of queer people, of course. Women’s lib is also much more widely accepted, if we’re going that far back.
Sure, some things have improved, nobody is denying that
Nobody except you?
The thing is, the stuff that has improved is like +5 improvement, and the things that have gotten worse is like -100.
I don’t disagree.
I want to go back a step, and try to understand you here. What do you do for work?
I do unskilled labor.
It’s dot ml communities. Fuckem.
I’ve mostly blocked .ml instances. They’re super toxic and not really open to discussion at all. I wouldn’t worry about it too much.
