• southsamurai@sh.itjust.works
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    11 hours ago

    Fuck 'em

    I hate sony now, but consoles have their place in gaming. If the companies didn’t fuck you over, that place would be even bigger because the convenience factor alone is a huge plus.

    But don’t conflate shitty corporate behavior with the underlying concept. The ps5 is a great console. It’s just not really your console the way it should be because of sony

  • 🍉 DrRedOctopus 🐙🍉@lemmy.world
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    issue is that a ps5 is much cheaper than a computer that can play the same games.

    so I find the argument a bit classisist.

    yhea, a machine you own and control is better, yes gaming in a pc is better. but that’s like saying “Why people use more affordable thing that comes with a lot of issues instead of the much more expensive thing?”

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      A comparable PC costs roughly 1 to 2x a PS5, but in the long run the PC is cheaper when you factor in the costs of games and subscriptions .

      Plus it’s a PC, with 100s of applications beyond just gaming and streaming. And there’s 100,000 + PC games vs ~1100 PS5 games.

      It’s modular and upgradeable. So in 5 to 7 years, you can upgrade it instead of buying a whole new console.

      The only real advantage consoles have are the cheaper upfront costs.

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        11 hours ago

        Don’t forget size factor, ease of placement, etc. Even mini PCs tend not to be designed with placement near a big TV in mind. Consoles are by default

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        in the long run

        That’s the classist part of the argument. Being able to afford higher upfront costs for the sake of a long-term investment is often what sets classes apart. Premium products, in general, tend to be cheaper in the long run (see: printers, shoes, clothes, houses, etc.)

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          You can play tons of good games on a PC that is cheaper up-front than a Playstation 5. Get a second-hand 720p or 1080p monitor for $30. Spend 1 day to build a $470 PC (logical increments has a good parts list and it’s easier than legos). Install Linux. Start pirating.

          Even if you count that day as $200 in lost opportunities (in which case you would logically be making at least $6000 after taxes per month, or over $100k per year before taxes), that still means it’s cheaper upfront to have a PC with hundreds of games than a PS5 with one (1) game.

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    21 hours ago

    I’m probably going to regret asking, but curiosity is getting the better of me.

    What has the PS5 done to draw the ire of the fediverse?

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        No system configuration

        No drivers to mess with

        No DRM eating system resources

        Significantly cheaper (you can get a whole PS5 for the cost of a similarly performing GPU alone, thanks AI!)

        Even playing field for all players, no competitive advantage for having better hardware

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        Can’t speak for the multiplayer subscription, but the latter two have pretty much always been the case, no?

        (Sits on stump, sets my belt onion off to the side, tells the young’uns to gather round to listen to an old man speak): Back when I gamed, I had to pay for Xbox Live to play multiplayer.

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          I guess just because it has always been like that doesn’t make it good.

          Personally, I think if they allowed installing whichever system you want on the machine you own, it would be leaps ahead. In fact the first xbox I think allowed installing Windows, and they teased Linux in the PS3, but later rolled back? People did it but I don’t remember if it ever became anything official.

          Pay for multiplayer, well it’s justifiable but definitely not for the price they charge, which is why they include all the “other perks”.

          In any case, if you own a console, enjoy it!

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            OG Xbox didn’t allow anything like that, but there was an active mod scene. Once it got to the point you could soft mod it without having to install a modchip, it was like a whole new system. Kodi started life as Xbox Media Center running on the OG Xbox. Was so awesome and that was my media center for years.

            Yeah, the PS3 “Other OS” debacle was a real dirty move by Sony, I’ll agree. There was no reason to take away existing functionality but they did it anyway.

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        I’m assuming you mean for internet multi not local? That’s been a thing tried since remote gaming became viable, some worked some failed, some just built things where lan parties became a thing and told the users to figure it out themselves.

        Consoles from the dawn of time have had locked OS and no mods (unless you count things like the game genie/shark systems) so that’s nothing new either.

        I’ll stick mostly to PC myself, but those things aren’t unique to the PS5.