[yellow, a finger up, looking smug]
The answer to oppression is NEVER violence
Turn the other cheek
Pacifism always wins
You could earn rights by asking nicely instead
[yellow, proudly showing us a huge book]
Don’t believe me?
Open a history book!
[yellow, looking frustrated as they are shuffling through the book’s pages]
Ok so…
Uhm…
Not this page…
Wait…
The next one…
Awkward…
Another…
Yeah but…
For sure this time…
[yellow, sweating, protecting their book, a hand raised towards us]
Can you stop looking?
You’re being rude
That’s my book
https://thebad.website/comic/please_resist_responsibly
Nonviolent India Independence Movement
Looks inside
A shit ton of violence
I don’t know much about Gandhi but didn’t the British grant independence to other countries just as they did to the Indians(ok, probably better than they did it with the Indians)? I mean they just couldn’t support their troops due to the ww2. Would it be violent they would have probably left sooner. If there was no peaceful independence movement at all, well they did leave like that in other countries. So I don’t get Gandhi praise, it’s not like he did anything(also he was a pedo).
Yes, we were trained how to protest wrong on purpose. Ask any product of the public school system about protest and they’ll either look at you confused or start babbling on about the most PG version of MLK and/or Gandhi imaginable. Nonviolence only works when it is understood by all parties to be the alternative. Many forms of effective protest have been outlawed and the owners, in a masterstroke, turned much of society’s valid anger (along with a great deal of less-than-valid anger) into self oppression with the MAGA movement and similar movements in other countries.
tldr; we’re too stupid to save
Ask any product of the public school system about protest and they’ll […] start babbling on about the most PG version of MLK and/or Gandhi imaginable
Yup, exactly like that. Be sure to ask them literally anything else about Indian Independence. For example, when it happened with the followup of when did Gandhi’s high profile protests happen.
Liberals rely on you never reading lol
The ruling class didn’t get to be the ruling class by being convivial. If you want a peaceful, classless society you need to treat it like a bonsai tree: occasionally you must nip things in the bud.
FYI, there is a difference between nonviolence and pacifism. Pacifism opposes violence altogether and is predicated on the idea that there is a peaceful way to settle all disputes. That is to say, it’s a philosophical or ethical position. Nonviolence is a strategy to achieve your goals without employing violence. Nonviolent protesters do not take violence off the table altogether. Rather, they believe that violent actions are not as likely to achieve their goals as nonviolent action would be.
In general, nonviolent action is taken by groups who are opposing an oppressor that has a significant power advantage over them. By resorting to violence immediately, they play into a game that they are destined to lose. Instead, they strive to use nonviolent means to make their struggle impossible to ignore. It relies on the oppressive system being vulnerable to a change in public opinion. In general, it also involves an implication that they may someday resort to violence if things do not change. That is, it differs from pacifism in that it does not deny that violence may be necessary.
Unfortunately, the idea of “then we go into the board room and execute all those assholes” has a certain emotional appeal that’s absent from “we’ll boycott, vote, run better candidates”.
More active resistance like strikes or blocking production are a little more poetic, but tend to draw violence
History be like:
It doesn’t have to by killing people violence though. But just going on a parade isn’t doing anything on it’s own.
It could work to show how much support a movement has, but you need something to follow up if demands are not met and you actually want something to change.
A strike or blockade isn’t violent. Non violent also doesn’t mean legal. See how many non violent terrorist pensioners the UK is locking up.
So, you guys going to take out your child rapist leader now?
No, because Americans are actual pussies.
The trolls are heavy with this post. “Americans are cowards.” “Pick up a gun and fight.”
While I see thier points in relation to this post, they rarely look at America tactically. If I wanted to do a violance, I’d need to know the location of my targets, so I look them up, turns out they move from town to town state to state for mettings and things. Now that I know, my options is to go rogue and independent or gather a group. Too many are tired and exsuasted trying to survive. Many are afraid to loose thier job. Many are afraid to loose thier home… So all that’s left is lone actors. I personally have a good reason why I’m not attacking, I have a disease that makes doing any significant travel impossible. Once Americans have a garuentee that violance will give them what they want, then, and only then will violence occur. For all our bravado, we are a risk adverse people, surprisingly.
I guess they don’t teach you kids about Gandhi and King anymore. Or more likely you skipped school that day.
“Political power grows from the costume of a dancing frog”
Mao Zedong if he’d been a brainrotted Liberal.
Well yes, the issue is precisely with what you are taught in school vs what is in history books.
Gandhi was the culmination of centuries of violent anti-colonial struggle. While he was doing non-violent resistance in the wake of a war, the HSRA and Anushilan Samiti acted as violent threats to incentivize the UK to work with Gandhi or risk more terrorist acts, while various extremely violent soldier mutinies weakened the british grip on the country.
MLK only worked because of the implications. The panthers, urban uprisings, Malcolm X were setting the country ablaze. MLK’s platform was that there were two options, dealing with him or dealing with the rioters. The white house had no choice due to the scale of the riots and the threat of an escalation in violent tactics (panthers were starting to show up with big guns).
In both cases, what won was the diversity of tactics. The non-violent face of those events are all that’s taught in school, but the full picture of those movements can be found in the history books. You are in no position to be dismissive of others when you are the person in the comic.
You are in no position to be dismissive of others when you are the person in the comic.
I am in an excellent position to be dismissive of calls to violence. Violence is the way of barbarians. Non-violent resistance is a progression in human civilization. Violence is a regression. Anger and hate are a poison that must be turned into compassion.
Remind me how that King thing turned out, again?
“You can’t negotiate with a tiger when your head is in it’s mouth.” -Winston Churchill on Appeasement Strategey
Remind me how that King thing turned out, again?
Civil Rights Act of 1964. Voting Rights Act of 1965. Fair Housing Act of 1968. End of Jim Crow. Nyota Uhura getting a job on the bridge of the Enterprise.
“You can’t negotiate with a tiger when your head is in it’s mouth.” -Winston Churchill on Appeasement Strategey
“Now you listen to me. While I will admit to a certain cynicism, the fact is that I am a naysayer and hatchetman in the fight against violence. I pride myself in taking a punch and I’ll gladly take another because I choose to live my life in the company of Gandhi and King. My concerns are global. I reject absolutely revenge, aggression, and retaliation. The foundation of such a method… is love. I love you Sheriff Truman.”
-FBI Agent Albert Rosenfield on Sheriff Truman threatening to punch him again
i was referring to how MLK ENDED
Don’t confuse nonviolence or pacifism for an unwillingness to defend oneself. God blesses the innocent, not the foolish.
That wouldn’t have worked 50 to 70 years earlier though, they would have just been massacred. Those were post ww2 for a reason.
General strikes that do real economic damage would work. They would round up the leaders and prosecute them as terrorist each time.
“So love me love me love me, I’m a liberal”
I disagree that Gandhi was non-violent, as his action was self-inflicted violence. Starving himself would have caused irreparable damage to his body, and really is almost akin to self mutilation. King I would agree with, but I would also point out that overall that almost 80 years after his death, minority groups still experience many forms of systemic racisms. He pushed the needle, but not very far in my opinion.
The State only respects power. If you can show the State that you have more power than the State, you can influence the State.
Power isn’t just physical violence. There is:
- Economic power, which is show cased through boycotts, strikes, and other means
- Soft power, which is shown through lobbying and other diplomatic means
- Political power, which is shown through the ballot box
- Protest power, which is shown through protests and marches
- Violence, which is how much violence can be afflicted onto the State
- Cultural power, how has the dominant culture
This list is no means exhaustive. Each form of power has a time and place for it.
You have no economic power, you have no soft power, your political power is limited to some states and people are being pulled from their positions, protesting has been doing fucking nothing, cultural power = 😂 irrelevant.
I reality your deluding yourself.
This is just the classic “four boxes of liberty”, rephrased.
Lol comicstrips
Public Education in the US LOVES Martin Luther King Jr.
Barely ever any mention of Malcom X.
I hold that nobody would’ve listened to MLK if the alternative wasn’t Malcom’s approach.
The black panthers had guns and actively leaned on people, they courced people, with VIOLENCE.
and it worked, maybe people citizens should do the same.
Exactly my point.
I think the only time “Black Panthers” was mentioned in my 13 years of public education was when somebody asked a random question about Forest Gump.
yah but iv noticed a trend with Americans, they are obviously afraid of their own state, they seem to actually thing their police and army are unbeatable (no they’re fuckin not and you have close access to their production facility for easy destruction) but for some fuckin reason, they wont do it. im sorry but if they wont fight for themselves, they deserve the Yoke. especially since they’ve falsely be crying about democracy and freedom for decades, i don’t think Americans realize how bad their reputation is outside of america.
The Black Panthers did more to advance gun control laws than any “radical left hippie kumbaya” ever did. Let minorities have the same freedoms and suddenly things need to be toned down for everybody.
