Are you prepared for the day the #internet splits?
On the clearnet you will be
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Unable to watch porn.
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Required to give your real name and ID in order to use social media.
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Arrested for “mean tweets”, “anti-government views”, “liking subversive memes”, etc
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Only be allowed to use approved applications from Apple, Google, Microsoft, etc
On #Tor and #I2P you can still be free.
What you can do to prepare
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Set your downlink speed to 10-15mbps to acclimatize yourself
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Encourage app developers to host their applications on Onion and Eepsite domains. (Git repos, fdroid repos, linux distro repos, etc)
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Run all applications that support SOCKS5 over the Tor SOCKS port (9050) (#Fdroid, #Signal, #SimpleX, #AntennaPod, etc)
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Use bookmarks or password manager notes to have the URLs of your commonly used programs, services, and repos (#Monero, #XMRBazaar, #Pitch, #Dread, etc.)
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Get used to text messages instead of audio or video calls. (Audio and video use UDP and generally give your real IP to either a central STUN server or the other peer. (it may be possible to force audio and video calls over TCP exclusively, but the latency would be high and therefore make the call unenjoyable.)
if you tweet, I would rather you were on a different internet, or preferably on a different planet.
If you think you will get away with using either of those things on the internet once all that other shit happens, I’ve got a paramilitary police squad to sell you
I2P is a fully connected network where everyone is a relay, a UDP transport exists iirc, and there are many other significant technical differences.
And if you’re dreaming of significant masses moving to the shadows, you might as well dream of them using distributed solutions. Otherwise, the monsters will simply find and shutdown the hosts/servers of whatever the good kids are consuming.
There is a connection between August and freedom. Do you know what is it?
Set your downlink speed to 10-15mbps to acclimatize yourself
My ISP is way ahead of you. Must be looking out for me.
Alternatively, create your own private intranet and/or become a P2P node in something like YaCy, peer tube etc.
You can self host a lot (and I mean a lot) of what people think of as “the internet” using a busted $20 laptop and some decent storage.
I’d say you can get a really decent slice of the internet in 10-15TB of storage if you have the technical know how.
I mean, it’s always been this way on the internet. Somewhere in the mid to late 90’s, a language and communication program (http and web browsers) became very popular and synonymous with “the internet.” But us old farts remember when Usenet, gopher, ftp, fsp, irc, etc. were all used daily. As the World Wide Web enshittifies, people will either stay or move elsewhere, just like they always did.
The real question in my mind is more akin to the movement between physical networks - such as when we moved away from bbs, to college proprietary connections, and ultimately to the internet. I often wonder why - with all of the portable WiFi radios we all own - why hasn’t anyone created an encrypted protocol and software where we all join our personal hardware into one big giant mesh network? I don’t even live in a city in an apartment and I can pick up 4 neighbor’s WiFi signals, never mind all the cell phones and whatnot passing by my house. You’d think we could have an encrypted and robust way of sending packets to each other by now over our personal private hardware (albeit slow and probably prone to buffering as nodes move in and out of connection range).
Oftentimes I think that’s the next frontier.
They did. Welcome to the rabbit hole that is LoRA, Mesthastic and ESP-32 devices.
You’ll have a blast. They’ve even recreated BBSes and IRC.
Take a look at MeshCore and LoRa. Also Reticulum
Meshtastic instead meshcore. The former is pure mesh the latter needs repeaters.
…which has its own advantages
It doesn’t absolutely require repeaters. There is an off-grid mode.
Plus, repeaters in meshcore are more like client base in meshtastic. You’re meant to put them up at your house. Is it good to put them on tall towers and mountains? Absolutely. But if you can’t do that, then you can put it at your house at, say, 30 feet, and it’s just fine. Because even with the 3-byte IDs, you still get 16 hops.
What’s wrong with me if all I read was “rectum”.
it means that we think alike and should be friends. lol
Mellon🧙♂️
It doesn’t exist (in practice) because nobody cares. And if a significant proportion of population did then the government would do everything in their power to shut it down or take control of it (and most governments have the means to do that, eventually, no matter what naive American/European armchair “freedom fighters” think).
I would say that isn’t going to happen, if we don’t stop fighting.
I live in the European Union.
So you are likely already experiencing most if not all of the above issues with the clearnet.
i think it depends on where.
the uk or germany or scandavia: yes
i’m actually planning on getting some big hard drives soon when i can afford it.
You might like this, then
https://get.kiwix.org/en/solutions/applications/kiwix-server/
yup. one of the things i’d love to host!
This seems very plausible. Wouldn’t say I am ready but will be prepared to adapt when the time comes .
It’s weird how many people mix up the clearnet with platforms.
Good guide. Its 100% coming to this in 10 years. Or less. We will all be “criminals”.
The same people selling the clearnet will be the same people who will never let the existing stuff die, so they can sell the problems, the “solutions”, child-porn, and most stupidly, considering they seem to honestly believe they want to force this on the rest of us, to feel they are “above the law”, and not confined to the bounds of their own machinations.
I’m not convinced more than maybe 5 or 10% of people will ever actually use the clear-net, or even be able to afford to either. The same idiots trying to force it are population their new “walled-garden for the rest of them” with, basically, AI spoofs of the rest of the population. They are already huffing their own farts the the point they won’t be able to tell the difference, like an artificial resurgence of The Bicameral Mind for “the ruling class”.
- I know very little about Tor, although I am running a bridge to help out people in Iran and China. Is configuring individual apps to use the Tor SOCKS port the same as if I do it on my router (so that everything in my home network goes through Tor)?
If you have it set up on your router so that everything goes through the network, then you don’t need to do anything on your individual devices unless it’s going to be on your phone, which would be off of your Wi-Fi network sometimes and on cellular.
In that scenario, you’ll want an application to act as a local VPN tunnel such as the Tor VPN app or Invizible (fdroid)
Thanks!
Yeah if porn is at the top of the list, you have a problem.
There is a song from a musical called Avenue Q and the line goes, “the internet is really really great, for porn. I’ve got a fast connection so I don’t have to wait, for porn. There’s always some new site, I browse all day and night, It’s like I’m surfing at the speed of light, for porn.”
You’ve not experienced Avenue Q until you’ve seen it in the original World of Warcraft machinima.
20 years ago!! thank you, that was a great watch
