edit: the guy to our guy

    • stray@pawb.socialEnglish
      3·
      11 months ago

      You’ve got me thinking about Pride and Prejudice and how Darcy’s flavor of misogyny could be interpreted as hatred of patriarchal limitations on the social class “women” rather than a hatred of what women actually are. That is, he hates the behavior women act out as part of a performance they’ve been forced into, but he doesn’t fully think through the concept of systemic oppression because he has no educational background to support that level of introspection, and so he’s left blaming women. I’m sure there’s probably quite a lot of writing on that angle already, but it’s the first time it’s ever occurred to me.

      • Concetta@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
        7·
        11 months ago

        Honestly, I don’t know if it would be productive but I think it would be a horrid afternoon for Rowling so I would absolutely support this.

        • Dae@pawb.socialEnglish
          6·
          11 months ago

          No, I don’t think it would be productive in the least, but it would be hysterical and worth eating popcorn to!

  • gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish
    7·
    11 months ago

    damn this is gold. that guy’s a genius. he might have weird views but at least they’re consistent and well thought-through (edit: except the “women are all stupid” part).

    i also really cackled at the “damn, cheese, gender, what else do they deny themselves?” as if a gender is something you’re enjoying. really brightens my day that some people see it that way so instinctively.

  • A_norny_mousse@feddit.orgEnglish
    6·
    11 months ago

    Amazing. On the surface everything I read is bigotry and disdain, but I can’t help liking the guy. At the very least he seems to have the consistency to choose his very own flavor of bigotry.

    Not humor though; as far as I understand OOP he’s 100% serious. Maybe one of those people that are kinda half aware that they’re being an asshole just for conversation.

    • stray@pawb.socialEnglish
      2·
      11 months ago

      He sounds pretty autistic, and I mean that somewhat affectionately and not at all as an insult. His manner of thinking feels personally familiar to me.

      Say we lived in a society that let dogs vote. You wouldn’t have to hate dogs to be real about the fact that they’re not our intellectual equals and to be frustrated with a system that gives them decision power that affects everyone in society. And you’d be even more frustrated when people around you say you’re a bad person for being dog-phobic.

      I think that’s the internal world he’s living in, based on a series of false premises that he genuinely believes to be true. I think that if these false facts were corrected then his conclusions would naturally improve. It’s how it worked for me.

      • Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish
        2·
        10 months ago

        the guy needs to sit down with an equally autistic queer person/ally and just spend 3 days straight hashing it out.

  • Eiri@lemmy.caEnglish
    5·
    11 months ago

    If we must have rude people, I want more of that guy among them.

            • Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
              0·
              11 months ago

              He’s also just not funny, which is a problem for a comedian.

              He’s so unfunny he just sucks the humour out of any scene he’s in.

              • stray@pawb.socialEnglish
                1·
                11 months ago

                I enjoy some of his work, but the guy himself is always just being an asshole to somebody, and not in like a fun Blackadder way. It’s just mean and unpleasant.

                • Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
                  0·
                  11 months ago

                  I remember watching a scene by scene comparison between the UK and US versions of the Office.

                  The US version felt a lot more lighthearted, like everyone was having a bit of a laugh, but it was all in good fun. The UK version was almost painful to watch, it really felt like watching workplace bullying.

                  And Gervais was a big part of that, every scene he was in just wasn’t funny to watch.

  • Jo Miran@lemmy.mlMEnglish
    1·
    11 months ago

    If the story is true, and my guess is that is and based in a Spanish speaking country, I think I kinda love the guy. Like a living Wholesome Redneck meme.

    • faythofdragons@slrpnk.netEnglish
      1·
      11 months ago

      Honestly, having worked in kitchens, this is sorta just how chefs are. You really need an oversized ego to run a kitchen well, and you have to be a little crazy to pull it off. They’re somehow either the best or worst people in the world, and sometimes you get a Guy like OP’s who is both simultaneously.

    • A_norny_mousse@feddit.orgEnglish
      1·
      11 months ago

      Couldn’t it also be that the guy exists, but the demand for stories about him is larger than him, so OOP chose to cater to that demand?

      I like the “accidentally scared a 17yo out of an eating disorder” though, you can’t make that shit up.

      • gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish
        0·
        11 months ago

        “accidentally scared a 17yo out of an eating disorder” though, you can’t make that shit up.

        well actually, that’s what they tried to do back when my parents were in school. they would force-feed them if they didn’t eat up. it was disgusting.

        • missfrizzle@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish
          1·
          11 months ago

          I don’t know the details, so I could be out of line, but you sometimes do have to force severe anorexia patients to eat. you can straight up die from it. and once you’re anorexic for long enough, your body stops feeling hungry at appropriate times, so you have to make yourself eat X number of calories on a schedule for a few months during refeeding.

          t. recovered anorexic who narrowly avoided inpatient.