• prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    I wish more people took this shit as seriously as it deserves rather than making snarky jokes about it. This shit ain’t funny.

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      But Goog map added “Gulf of America” under the Gulf of Mexico while MapQuest retain the Gulf of Mexico, so even when it has changed for USA MapQuest basically saying they won’t follow.

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        Again, not that they won’t follow, it’s that the name hasn’t changed. Trump can do what he likes and he can probably force the executive branch to use the name in official documentation, but other than that this stunt means nothing

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          The name of something is not an inherent property of that thing. All names are assigned.

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          Hi, I work in the map industry. We generally don’t get to decide what names to use for features. We apply what the local official name is (to simplify). That’s why if you’re in country A, feature X might be named something different than if you’re in country B. You can imagine this would (and has) caused many conflicts around the world if we didn’t display the local official name. (Switch your region via VPN and you can see this in action)

          If Google renamed it to Gulf of America, no Google didn’t, not really … They just inserted the new official name for that feature according to GNIS.

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          And Google are a bunch of evil techdicks so of course they suck up to the orange fuhrer.

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            Well I mean I can guarantee they won’t be changed around some parts of it lol. What kind of dumbass question is this? You think changing a sign makes something real?

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                What official matters? There is undoubtedly now be some official documentation with this name on it. There will be lots that isn’t.

                Let me ask you then. Personally in your view what is the name of that lake

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                  You should ask a kid that when they grow up with Gulf of America and Lake America or wherever we’re at now after being on their phones for their entire lives, not people that have grown up with the entirely different name and old name.

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      Yeah, I’m pretty sure the United States can’t change the name of a body of water that’s shared between multiple countries. If it’s not that, it still hasn’t gotten any sort of congressional approval.
      Edit: Lake Michigan is the only one that’s fully within the US. The others are patrolled by both the US Coast Guard and the Canadian Coast Guard, both have the ability to arrest anyone on either side of the border. The state governments that border the lakes have some power over them, but they’re held in trust for public use. The International Joint Commission resolves any disputes regarding them. I’m not quite sure what would have to go into changing the name of Lake Ontario, but it would at least require Canadian approval and US congressional approval, perhaps even approval from the state of New York and the province of Ontario. Oh yeah, this is also completely stupid and should under no circumstances actually happen.

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        That sounds nice.

        If Trump really wants to turn the screws, he can make it a requirement of federal contracts that all contractors use maps that comply with his infantile demmands.

        I think you’re kind of living in a pre-Trump reality where laws and procedures means something. It’s a super bad idea to feel comfortable with this administration because something they want to do is technically illegal. Everything is up for grabs right now.

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        I’m pretty sure the United States can’t change the name of a body of water that’s shared between multiple countries.

        Someone forgot about the GuLf Of AmErIcA already

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          I didn’t forget, but I’m pretty sure Trump has. I don’t think he’s talked about it in quite a while. I’ve never heard anybody actually call it the Gulf of America, and I live in the Deep South. I’m not sure it’s even used by the departments in the executive branch. This will probably be a similar situation.

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    You know, I never really considered automatic anti-vandalism mechanisms we have in place on OpenStreetMap, but they surely exist.

    All that to say I think we’re good on OSM too. lol

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    Please change it. I have more information than the public does on the Epstein files. Change it to the lake that divides the child rapist protection agencies from the child rapist enabling agencies. Canadian conservatives are just as involved.

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    so annoying the local news mentions. this only applies in within the boarders of amerca. no. no it doesn’t. executive orders are directions to the federal government. Its basicaly a memo to the agencies that they have to do that but no state or local government or private individual need follow it and I imagine most federal workers just avoid dealing with something now with the name of the lake. Once again I can’t wait for the next president to make an executive order changing the name of donald trump.

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      You assume we will ever have another president.

      But if we are allowed an election I’d vote for someone who made that part of their platform.