This is one of those comics where I have no clue what’s actually going on and who Jane Doe is and subsequently want to look it up but then realise that I really don’t need that information in my life, it’s probably a harrowing and dreadful story. I’m gonna enjoy my blissful ignorance and listen to ride the cyclone instead.
If you do decide to looks it up, the reach term to find stories about this event is below
Tap for spoiler
Cornell 7. In 2024, A group of 7 frat fuck sticks gang raped a woman for 7 hours. Their only punishment was to write an essay. Cornell swept it under the rug.
Just so you know where the downvotes and hate are coming from; and for anyone else who doesn’t understand either: “consenting while drunk” is not consent. There’s no ‘regret it later’, since there wasn’t consent - it’s more like ‘feel regret after becoming aware of it’, but even regret is the wrong word. disgusted, violated, furious.
I don’t have immediate access to the evidence, but my understanding is that these men and/or their accomplices intentionally got this woman too drunk to resist. She was unable to competently say yes, but she was also unable to competently say no.
If you think of this and other rape cases stemming from ‘they were drunk and regretted it later’ situations as the fault of the drunk person, please go educate yourself about consent and why being intoxicated precludes it.
I don’t have immediate access to the evidence, but my understanding is that these men and/or their accomplices intentionally got this woman too drunk to resist. She was unable to competently say yes, but she was also unable to competently say no.
Both are true. They got her drunk before the first two guys, then after the text inviting the rest of the frat to rape her was sent out, another guy forced her to take ketamine off of his dick.
If you are in a mind altered state then you can’t consent to shit.
Let’s put it this way, would anyone allow you to sign a contract for a loan or house if you were drunk. No they wouldn’t.
Edit - furthermore if they (and that’s a big if as opposed to did) pushed the drinks and shots and who knows what else on her, to make it so she said yes then that sure as fuck proves they knew she had to be blitzed to say yes.
Ah, giving details about a horrific thing to someone that explicitly said they did not want detail about the horrific thing. Internet, ever so helpful.
They came into the thread. They commented on the thread. They are not the only person in this thread. To think that the thread should come to a complete halt because one person who willingly participated said they don’t like the topic is asinine. But at least you and I both got to do what we love: complain pointlessly.
If providing a definition for a general expression to someone who mistook it for a name is “giving details about a horrific thing” to you, then that’s definitely a you-problem.
Huh I Didn’t say that and didn’t notice you could read it like that.
I meant I dont need to know more. I know a reference and that reference has a tragic backstory to it and I don’t want to traumatize myself by knowing the actual backstory.
Thank you for telling me
Yeah it was this little detail that reads that way.
By all means, avoid the details as needed for your own mental health. I really understand that reaction. As long as it isn’t in a dismissive way of course.
There’s a ton of bad shit going on in the world, and I can’t affect 99.999% of it directly. My empathy battery is fucking dry at this point and while I do know about this situation, I know there are hundreds if not thousands of others I don’t know about.
For my mental health, I could imagine limiting my exposure to additional horrific things if I could.
Every time something like this hits national news, I use it to send my state leadership another request asking them to make a new category in the statute renaming ‘sexual battery’ (paraphrased, sexual contact without consent) to ‘rape’ if there is intoxication involved.
Right now my state is [misdemenor]no consent => [felony]underage; active-no; active-no with violence.
I want a felony non-consent with intox, and I want the law to have very limited requirements for the victim to prove intoxication, since it might be days or even months later that the victim is able to speak up.
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This is one of those comics where I have no clue what’s actually going on and who Jane Doe is and subsequently want to look it up but then realise that I really don’t need that information in my life, it’s probably a harrowing and dreadful story. I’m gonna enjoy my blissful ignorance and listen to ride the cyclone instead.
If you do decide to looks it up, the reach term to find stories about this event is below
Tap for spoiler
Cornell 7. In 2024, A group of 7 frat fuck sticks gang raped a woman for 7 hours. Their only punishment was to write an essay. Cornell swept it under the rug.
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Just so you know where the downvotes and hate are coming from; and for anyone else who doesn’t understand either: “consenting while drunk” is not consent. There’s no ‘regret it later’, since there wasn’t consent - it’s more like ‘feel regret after becoming aware of it’, but even regret is the wrong word. disgusted, violated, furious.
I don’t have immediate access to the evidence, but my understanding is that these men and/or their accomplices intentionally got this woman too drunk to resist. She was unable to competently say yes, but she was also unable to competently say no.
If you think of this and other rape cases stemming from ‘they were drunk and regretted it later’ situations as the fault of the drunk person, please go educate yourself about consent and why being intoxicated precludes it.
Close, they were feeding her ketamine.
Both are true. They got her drunk before the first two guys, then after the text inviting the rest of the frat to rape her was sent out, another guy forced her to take ketamine off of his dick.
Drunk people can’t consent, dipshit.
Edit: And that’s before mentioning she was given high amount of other substances that she was not used to.
Have you ever considered not being a piece of shit?
If you are in a mind altered state then you can’t consent to shit.
Let’s put it this way, would anyone allow you to sign a contract for a loan or house if you were drunk. No they wouldn’t.
Edit - furthermore if they (and that’s a big if as opposed to did) pushed the drinks and shots and who knows what else on her, to make it so she said yes then that sure as fuck proves they knew she had to be blitzed to say yes.
no
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If you’re a woman, more power to you.
If you’re a man, get reading. You don’t get to sit this one out.
Jane Doe is a pseudonym used to represent the (female) victim in court documents when the victim’s identity and/or privacy shall be protected.
Aahhh, so that’s why the name seems familiar even though there’s nothing in particular I associate with it (except for ride the cyclone), thanks!
Wait, you’re not traumatised by my response? g https://lemmy.world/post/52932971/26261891
you’re welcome!
Ah, giving details about a horrific thing to someone that explicitly said they did not want detail about the horrific thing. Internet, ever so helpful.
Explaining that it is not a real name is arguably reducing the level of detail that they thought they knew.
They came into the thread. They commented on the thread. They are not the only person in this thread. To think that the thread should come to a complete halt because one person who willingly participated said they don’t like the topic is asinine. But at least you and I both got to do what we love: complain pointlessly.
If providing a definition for a general expression to someone who mistook it for a name is “giving details about a horrific thing” to you, then that’s definitely a you-problem.
Welcome to the reality of many people who simply can’t escape this topic like you can.
Jane Doe is the title of the chainsaw man movie ending theme and thats all I need to know about that. Banger song and movie tho
Why is this getting down votes, the song IS good! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sPLqsLsooJY
Probably because they kinda said they didn’t care about the rape.
Huh I Didn’t say that and didn’t notice you could read it like that. I meant I dont need to know more. I know a reference and that reference has a tragic backstory to it and I don’t want to traumatize myself by knowing the actual backstory. Thank you for telling me
Yeah it was this little detail that reads that way.
By all means, avoid the details as needed for your own mental health. I really understand that reaction. As long as it isn’t in a dismissive way of course.
There’s a ton of bad shit going on in the world, and I can’t affect 99.999% of it directly. My empathy battery is fucking dry at this point and while I do know about this situation, I know there are hundreds if not thousands of others I don’t know about.
For my mental health, I could imagine limiting my exposure to additional horrific things if I could.
Every time something like this hits national news, I use it to send my state leadership another request asking them to make a new category in the statute renaming ‘sexual battery’ (paraphrased, sexual contact without consent) to ‘rape’ if there is intoxication involved.
Right now my state is [misdemenor]no consent => [felony]underage; active-no; active-no with violence.
I want a felony non-consent with intox, and I want the law to have very limited requirements for the victim to prove intoxication, since it might be days or even months later that the victim is able to speak up.