The power trip / ban doesn’t bother me, but the misinformation does. They present as leftist, but flare up around US elections discouraging voter turnout via ‘bOtH siDeS’ garbage. that only ever elevates shit like MAGA.
In the linked thread, OP promotes rioting while discouraging voter turnout. My comments agreed with activism like riots, but pointed out that it’s not an either-or thing. You can riot -and- vote; and even if you don’t have it in you to riot, still do vote.
Banned.
You can see my removed comment quoted in the post after mine.
This ‘blue MAGA’ tankie shit is somehow worse than the loud-and-clear MAGA shit over on Reddit - at least those neonazis were honest about who they were.
Anywho, YSK. Spaces like r/conservative were clearly labeled and easy to avoid; LateStageCapitalism@lemmy.world presents as a cause worth rallying around, but only until you peel up the veneer and see that they’re the same fucking thing.
Also please vote. In addition to whatever flavor of activism tickles your fancy.
Note to all: This is not the place to get on your “VOTE” soapboaxes. Stick to judging the moderation action.
And one of the main ways to judge posts is to VOTE them up or down. Hmmm.
Not in this comm. Check the sticky
Sorry, will do from now on.
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They even mention voting for 3rd parties in their rules.
lesser evil rhetoric
Uh yeah? That’s the whole point haha
They present as leftist, but flare up around US elections discouraging voter turnout via ‘bOtH siDeS’ garbage. that only ever elevates shit like MAGA.
Trying to hijack a community like latestagecapitalism to tell people to vote for more latestagecapitalism is peak. Writing off everything to the left of you conservative tells me the mods were absolutely right in banning you.
Ahhh shit, here we go again
This is the fifth one I am seeing
I think I will opt for civility and choose to endorse free speech, whether in an echo-chamber or not.
This ‘blue MAGA’ tankie shit is somehow worse than the loud-and-clear MAGA shit over on Reddit - at least those neonazis were honest about who they were.
Okay, so we should say our goodbyes then?
I judge the moderation action as Lemmy typical shillness. Incidentally, remember, propaganda usually tries to play both sides, promoting disengagement and engagement where it suits them.
Tankie outreach community with mods that are pro Russia and censorship heavy. One of them loves responding to comments they’ve deleted. LW does nothing like usual in response to problematic moderators. PTB.
Don’t comment if you don’t like the rules. Seems pretty easy
Hilarious how folks can actually believe that socialists are the blue MAGA as opposed to the genocidal democrats and DSA. It is so feeble and tired.
I see someone didn’t read the rules…
They present as leftist, but flare up around US elections discouraging voter turnout via ‘bOtH siDeS’ garbage.
No, they criticize bourgeois elections all the time; consistently during all 24 months of the biennial US election cycle.
US liberals like you only complain about it for 2 months, and then go back to brunch for the next 22.
This ‘blue MAGA’ tankie shit is somehow worse than the loud-and-clear MAGA shit over on Reddit - at least those neonazis were honest about who they were.
‘Horseshoe theory’ is nonsense. We’re socialists, we’re punching right, and you & MAGA are to the right of us.
Don’t hide who you really are - fascists supporting authoritarian and imperalist regimes.
They don’t criticise Russian or Chinese elections even though there are definitely bourgeois. False!
Going straight to insults with the liberal crap and no, many people in the US care a great deal about elections for far more than just 2 months. This is false and inflammatory
Horseshoe theory perfectly describes leftist who cross over to worshipping neoauthotarian regimes like China and Russia. They embrace violence and turn their back on leftism and cross over to becoming something that is very similar to the far right only they profess socialism. The type of socialism where everyone is convinced by the barrel of a gun.
They like to accuse everyone as being fascist (legitimate) but then can’t wrap their head around China being even more fascist than the US. It is a rather sad ideology really and I feel bad that they have lost the way.
China being even more fascist than the US.
Please, do us all a favor and go into detail about this, lol.
For sure.
Leader Centricity - This one is a no brainer with tons of modern myths about Xi already that are easily debunked.
Hyper nationalism - The cult of China is pretty darned intense as you demonstrate. China relies on the myth of national greatness, decline, and a vision of rebirth. All classic fascist qualities.
Orwellian Surveillance - People are whisked away for displaying even the most minor grievance against the government. It is beyond ridiculous that they have converted most of their own populace into spies out of fear. Reminds me so much of Fascist Italy it isn’t funny.
Corporate State Capitalism - CCP highly integrates many industries and exerts rigid controls on them. This is perhaps the most defining feature of fascism as explained by the person who coined the term. This is really what sets China apart from the US and makes even more fascist in nature.
Militarism - The MIC in China is highly integrated into civilian research and industry is aligned as well. China has now moved to the fourth largest producer of arms in the World and will likely become third or second in the next decade depending if the US starts to fail. They sell weapons to worn torn parts of Africa where their weapons have ended up on both sides of the conflicts killing civilians. They are also giving material support to Russia to prolong the Ukrainian conflict.
There are some decent counter arguments to some of these points, but I am not convinced. It is clear that China has many Neofascist and Neoauthoritarian qualities as opposed to strictly copying historical fascism or authoritarianism from a place like Italy, Germany, or the US.
Thanks for the breakdown. Yeah you should definitely find a new hobby, haha.
Thanks for the insightful reply.
I was expecting better lol
Keep trying, troll game weak.
China being even more fascist than the US.
Even by Reddit standards, that’s an impressive level of imperial core propaganda that you’ve integrated into your Western chauvinist core beliefs.
Go on defending a “socialist” country that produces more billionaires than the US for the third straight year and shows no signs of slowing down. The fourth largest arm dealer in the world spreading its imperial killing machine across Africa where their arms have already killed civilians on both sides. One that literally meets every definition of fascism including the tight integration of business and the government.
Confusing neoauthoritarianism for communism is pretty damned funny honestly. Thanks!
I know for a fact each of these points has been thoroughly explained to you multiple times, so my question is: are you paid not to understand? Is it that the propaganda is baked in too deep? Are you silly as heck?
No disrespect.
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Yes, I have had several conversations with people from .ML that can admit that the Chinese government has many fascist qualities and that they are indeed neoauthoritarian much like most of Asia.
I study propaganda for fun that is why the amount of propaganda you spew is so ridiculous. I have already offered help deprogramming if you would like. You seriously need help.
I study propaganda for fun
⨂ Doubt
But muh Media Bias/Fact Check says it checks out!
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/contact/
Dave M. Van Zandt obtained a Communications Degree before pursuing a higher degree in the sciences. Dave currently works full time in the health care industry. Dave has spent more than 20 years as an arm chair researcher on media bias and its role in political influence.
Van Zandt is some hobbyist who was in the right place at the right time: the “post-truth” moment of Clinton’s loss to Trump and the string of Russiagate conspiracy theories and Kellyanne Conway’s alternative facts and the Cambridge Analytica hysteria.
The whole concept of the “left” or ”right“ “bias” being inversely correlated with factualness is garbage. These kinds of graphs, which try to convince us that centrism equals factualness, are garbage:
The core bias of corporate media is the bias of the capitalist class, but people like Van Zandt don’t seem to understand this.
The inner workings of corporate media were explained about forty years ago in Inventing Reality and Manufacturing Consent.
A five minute introduction: Noam Chomsky - The 5 Filters of the Mass Media Machine
I said “these kinds of graphs,” of which there are many https://duckduckgo.com/?q=media+bias+chart&iax=images&ia=images
But you’ve sparked an idea for an interesting project: use MBFC’s API to create one of these graphs from their own data. Doing a little googling, it seems that scripts and data dumps aren’t hard to come by.
I think armchair media analyst Dave M. Van Zandt is going on vibes. I don’t think he understands corporate & think tank media. Does he know who Walter Lippman or Edward Bernays were, or what the Council on Foreign Relations (“least biased” 🤡) is or made note of its prominent media members? Does he know about the Powell memorandum or the Trilateral Commission’s report, The Crisis of Democracy?
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site:mediabiasfactcheck.com "manufacturing consent".I’ve seen The Grayzone debunk the New York Times’ lies many times, and yet:
Also, in what universe is the neoliberal, anti-labor NYT center-left? And if the Grayzone in the ultraviolet territory, where does that leave the explicitly Communist Monthly Review, outside of MBFC’s Overton window? Surprise, it’s to the right of it:
The first step is to understand the media, which Media Bias/Fact Check and the Ad Fontes Media* are never going to teach you. The only people who are taught it are those who get degrees in marketing, public relations, political science, history, and journalism; and even then only some of them.
The new post-Trump/“post-truth” media literacy curricula won’t teach it to you either, because it was paid for and crafted by the US military-industrial complex: New Media Literacy Standards Aim to Combat ‘Truth Decay’.
This week, the RAND Corporation released a new set of media literacy standards designed to support schools in this task.
The standards are part of RAND’s ongoing project on “truth decay”: a phenomenon that RAND researchers describe as “the diminishing role that facts, data, and analysis play in our political and civic discourse.”
None of it is a secret, though, and it can be learned.
Wow, you totally proved I don’t study propaganda. Are you purposely acting obtuse here?
I think you have too much faith in your own intelligence, and you should find a new hobby, lol.
Oh what a real zinger. Love the insults.
Yes, that’s the imperial core propaganda I’m talking about. The US spends millions per year cranking it out, as earmarked in the budget by Congress.
Good thing China doesn’t produce propaganda!! Lol you are sooo funny.
Also, I hate the US, but I am not about to run into the arms of more capitalists pretending to be something else.
You should run into the arms of some theory, lol
Weak effort, sad.
…we’re punching right…
Hmmmm. But not up… (and that is the only direction you should be aiming.)
Disappointing, that.
Exactly, because as we all know the left and right wings are both on a perfectly level playing field in the US.
Tell me you don’t know left from right without telling me you don’t know left from right.
In capitalist states, right is up, because the right controls the state.
LATE STAGE CAPITALISM IS AN INVALID SUB RUN SOLELY BY AN ANTI-DEMOCRATIC CRYBABY MOD THAT BANS EVERYONE THAT DISAGREES WITH HIM AND HE IS MOST LIKELY A PAID FOREIGN SHILL.
Not sure how many times I have to keep pointing this out, but I will because fuck that loser.
Mod’s name is GodlessCommie (lol) and he spreads anti-voter sentiment and runs the sub as his own personal cry space that you can only take part in if you support his narrative.
He is stupid, dangerous, and most likely being paid by people who want to see American decline.
Do not participate in that sub and let everyone you can know not to as well.
Could you please screech and cry more about it?
I got banned for violating rule 4 (no “lessor evil rhetoric”) despite specifically writing a comment not to include “lessor evil” rhetoric and then having the audacity to call out the mod to show where I broke rule 4 in my comment.
Fuck those guys. I was very motivated to report the channel, but I’m not 100% sure that I’m not just being a butthurt little bitch, gonna give it a few days to simmer, and to see if other people continue to have issues with their moderation. Still though, feels good to get a ban badge from them.
lessor evil
Lol. That moron mod doesn’t even know how to spell “lesser”.
Yeah, I thought about posting on here after that idiot banned me, but didn’t feel like it was worth the effort. But at this point I’ve seen multiple others complaining about that fool and his sub so I’m glad they’re taking the time to post about it.
How many languages do you speak?
Where else? I can’t stop seeing far right/russian propaganda. I don’t even want to use this app anymore, it seems like that’s all there is here, along with very mean aggressive manipulative accounts.
I don’t know how to stop it. I can’t even down vote the shit, or comment at all anymore because I think a mod silently banned me from multiple places or something.
You can block it in the settings
Block which places?
there should be the option to block specific instances in the settings. if that doesnt, work you could also switch to a different fediverse client.
I see OP has multiple comments that are all deleted. A reply quoting their “you should vote” comment isn’t deleted. There are comments still up like:
What prevents you from voting and rioting at the same time?
There is absolutely no reason to not vote.
To me it looks like something else triggered the ban.
It could have been another one. I expanded on my stance that discouraging activism or voting is an act of support for the status quo, specifically MAGA. Maybe that crossed the mod’s line. /shrug.
Idk I’ve seen multiple people with this sort of experience so I’m willing to believe OP
It’s so that other people can still pile on. Telling people to vote is against LSC community rules.
Support for capitalism or for the parties or ideologies that uphold it are not welcome or tolerated.
It looks like they’ve got razor thin margins on what they allow.
-You should vote ✅️
-You should vote for the party that isn’t measurably making you life worse. ❌️
They’re guilty of “both sides bad” in my opinion. An endorsement of any mainstream party or candidate breaks their rules.
Saying you should vote would also be supporting capitalism or the parties/ideologies that uphold it.
I’m sure you will tell us which modern country with a democracy isn’t operating some form of capitalism. Functional people deal with the cards they are dealt to choose the best possible outcome, not imagine the best possible one and make believe.
The comm has rules, they may be completely idiotic but they are unfortunately clear enough that can’t complain about them making rules up. It isn’t like most comms with “no politics” or “no promoting violence” where they inforce is in a wishy washy way.
First of all,
The comm has rules, they may be completely idiotic
Yes, so people would complain. Do not suffer fools. They also cripple any real discussion about “Late Stage Capitalism”.
But this would be assuming your leap of logic was correct, which it isn’t. The rule is:
3 No capitalist apologia, anti-socialism, anti-communism, or liberalism, liberalism is in direct conflict with the left. Support for capitalism or for the parties or ideologies that uphold it are not welcome or tolerated.
You don’t vote because you support everything a party does, specially in majority wins all election systems. I’ll quote myself again:
Functional people deal with the cards they are dealt to choose the best possible outcome, not imagine the best possible one and make believe.
Being banned from latestagecapitalism is an honor. They have conservative mods. You can be banned there for criticizing conservatism or saying things that are too far from Fox News talking points.
Not really sure how or why we end up with conservative mods in these communities, but it really ruins them.
LateStageCapitalism is run by a sole moderator who is either a foreign shill or so stupid that they’re doing their work for them for free.
He bans anyone that goes against his narrative. I am by no means the only person that has spoken out against that sub and its mod. It’s becoming public knowledge at this point that the sub is compromised.
They have communist mods, I think they’re Marxists. I’d respect you more if you at least said you’re against the “extreme left” or something like that instead of pretending that everyone who isn’t liberal is conservative or secretly conservative.
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You guys know you can do both?
I know you yanks aren’t the smartest. But surely being able to do two things isn’t that difficult for you?
UK
I mean … glass houses and stones.
