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    i maintain that the reason everyone on the internet hates php is because the devs who write php code all day go home to their spouse and kids after work instead of arguing on the internet.

    cuz, nobody really treats any other language like this, even though… gestures to npm and pypi’s constant security flaws

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      We are fully capable of thinking PHP, NPM, and PyPi are trash simultaneously. Though it should also be said that only PHP has had decades of security flaws in the language itself, rather than a package manager.

      It’s just a very poorly designed language with countless footguns and fucking idiotic standard library functions, on top of being a running joke, security-wise.

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      If you treat programming as a job, PHP is good because it lets you get things done.

      If you treat programming as a craft, PHP is gross for a whole bunch of reasons.

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      cuz, nobody really treats any other language like this, even though… gestures to npm

      I usually see more Javascript hate than PHP hate these days, mostly because everyone had forgotten that PHP exists.

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      JavaScript gets a lot of shit and part of that’s from me, a JavaScript dev.

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        The most insane thing I ever worked in was Qt Creator, which used JavaScript for the UI and C++ for the lower level back end stuff. The switching your brain had to do to go back and forth between the two languages was remarkable. I think Qt is the real reason the suicide and alcoholism rates in Finland are so high.

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          I used Qt before as a library for C++, never knew there was a Qt Creator but that was eons ago.

          My heart goes out to all those Fins.

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      Nooo but how do I hecking pad things on the left?!?!!!1!! I need 600 npm packages before I can put a div on a page

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      i maintain that the reason everyone on the internet hates php

      let me finish the sentence:

      …because they knew about the vulnerability since 2024 and simply forgot about it.