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If anything, give the money to the housekeeper directly.
Tipping in general is a concept that should just die. Same actually as bonuses. I work at a rather large company where sales closing a deal will get them a bonus. In my job I don’t directly deal with customers, so I can never get a bonus. U don’t work less hard than sales. I would actually say my job is more stressful. They should just pay people what they’re worth.
I always tell people that a bonus is imaginary and should never be considered as part of a job offer.
If you do acheive a partial amount one year the next year the “calculations” to get one will change to fuck you over.
I once worked in a European office of a big US company a while back where I negotiated a fair salary, they agreed, and then on the first day the contract arrived and fully 25% of it was a “bonus target” that I was assured everyone always got every time so I shouldn’t worry about it.
Inevitably, it was the first thing to go as soon as a new CEO came in with the task of improving Earnings Per Share, giving me an instant 25% pay cut. What’s shittier is they announced it after the period it applied to, so it was a retroactive 25% pay cut as well. Luckily I wanted to leave anyway for other reasons, so I took them to a tribunal and got paid, cause you can’t pull that sort of shit in Europe. My US colleagues didn’t fare so well.
I once worked for a company that had a weird policy that your commissions couldn’t be more than 75% of your pay. At the end of the year, if your commissions were more than 75%, they would raise your base pay to reflect the proper ratio.
For most people, it didn’t matter, because commissions were so low. But I’m a commission whore, so I was constantly scheming to increase my commissions. First I went to every one of my region’s clients, and figured out who wasn’t buying products from my division, and got them to start.
Then I started going around to large regional companies who weren’t customers, and got them to start buying my products. Since I had gone to the trouble of becoming a vendor, they would start buying from our other divisions,too (unfortunately, I didn’t get commission on the other divisions’ sales). A couple of those new clients grew huge, and one of them became a national chain.
My commissions got so high, that my base rate was getting adjusted every year, until I was making double over the other sale managers in my division. That means I should have been in line for a major promotion, right?
Nope, some accountant noticed that I was making more than anyone else on my job, so I got laid off.
A very similar thing happened to me a while back. Mine was “only” a 10% pay cut but it was extremely demotivating.
Of course, since I was in the US I had no such thing as a tribunal
Bonuses are also used to not have to give a raise.
oh please can we stop them after I get this year bonus? I work at a large company and everyone gets a little bonus. I really need my pitty bonus this year! please Im not a ceo, just a regular poor person
Don’t see it as sales getting more than they’re worth, see it as them getting less than they’re worth the rest of the year. If you still think that’s too much, fight for your wage and fight together.
The workers only cribble themselves if they fight eachother. We should all strive to get our rightful piece of the cake.
When I moved from the US to NZ I got way superior service then I’d ever had in the US and attempted tipping a “por boir” but they refused it and said if I really felt like giving extra they had a charity I could give to.
Unfortunately I have started seeing tips being asked for by POS in Sydney and Auckland and it made me mad and sad.
I went to a restaurant in Arrowtown yesterday and the POS asked for a tip. I’ve seen it a couple other places too but usually the worker hits no before giving it to me.
Say it with your vote and with your political involvement. Fucking over employees who depend on tips when you’re able to tip is shitty. They already don’t get paid enough, they don’t need your reminders.
Tip the maids, dick
give that attitude to the employer, dick
As a European, I had no idea this was something I needed to do. Man, I have so many questions.
How much? Is it a fixed amount per night or a gesture amount for the whole stay? Do I only put money in the envelope when I’m leaving or do I get a new envelope every day? Is it always the same housekeeper? Do they pool the money and divide it among themselves? If there’s anything the matter with the housekeeping, do I dock it from their tip? Are there envelopes for the bus driver, too?
I thought people typically researched this before going on a trip tbh
So, this varies wildly, but my understanding was that, barring some sort of shenanigan, it’s generally only ‘needed’/expected to tip housekeeping when you make a mess outside of normal usage of the space (like a ‘oops, I’m sorry I left trash everywhere, I was in a huge rush and didn’t have time to tidy up before I checked out’ sort of thing, like a slob tax).
For bus drivers, our street gets together and gets them a gift basket/gift card at the holidays.
Whole stay, when you’re leaving. What the housekeepers do is up to them. It isnt like restaurant tips, the expectation isn’t as engrained. Maybe 5-10 per time your room is serviced maybe more if you’ve left a real shitshow for some reason.
No on the bus driver. A hotel shuttle you can give a couple to if they help with the bags but generally not.
I wasn’t aware about this specific way that corporate America is creating cultural habits that benefit them at the expense of the consumer. I’ll confess that it’s odd to learn about them from a fellow consumer.
It seems to me that hotels should be more upfront about their staff being unpaid and clearly post the guidelines you’ve shared about donations from guests. Although, I suppose that if they cared about the well being of their staff, they would pay them a livable wage in the first place.
As for me, I’m irked that I’ve evidently been a cheapskate over the years. I’m generally a very tidy person—I make my bed, take off my shoes when entering the room, and neatly organize my things in my suitcase and in the wardrobe. I find it awkward and unnecessary for housekeeping to attend to my room daily, and now I feel torn and more awkward about having to pay somebody extra for something I don’t want or deem necessary.
So its not like restaurants where they can legally be paid under min if tips make it up but rather that housekeeping tends to be immigrants (often illegal) and thus underpaid. Most hotels will allow you to opt out of room servicing but when you leave they still have to “turnover” the room. Those neat sheets and clean towels all get thrown in the wash. The carpet still gets vacuumed, etc.
All that said I don’t really follow through on this all the time especially as I don’t carry cash as much nowadays.
Leave a tip and also some documentation on how to start a union
Best comment in the thread. I’m going to start doing this with EVERY tip I leave.
Maybe a business card with phone numbers of the various large labor unions - restaurants, service workers, etc.
You want a tip, here’s your tip: seize the means of production.
I can understand not leaving a tip if you don’t have the housekeepers clean during your stay. But if you have them service your room daily during your stay, you should tip them.
Tip them for doing their work? You’re crazy.
Maybe I’ll pay them a bit extra if they cleaned my cum off the curtains.
cleaning is included in the price - which is also charged daily, btw, so fuck tipping. That’s some real audacity from management right there to leave a passive aggressive note about tipping their staff for doing their job.
See now, as a US person who expects to tip housekeeping (and I tip them generously because I know they’re exploited and also our family has extra needs) and who also knows about shitty customers, I mostly read the note as “Don’t leave money lying randomly around and then come screaming that the maids have stolen it and you want your room comped. Use the envelope for tips.”
The company I rented a servant from is now asking I compensate the servant, outrageous!
I dunno, babe, maybe you ought to stay home if youre going to be an arse. If you go to a place where tipping is a thing, not doing so is just selfish and childish.
This isnt an argument in favour of tipping, but you’re not going to solve tipping through personal responsibility 🙄
