• RestrictedAccount@lemmy.world
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      It takes a while to figure out how selections in Gimp work.

      It whenever you select you have created a mask and when you combine it with layers it can get very confusing.

      If you accidentally select a small bit you cannot edit anything else. I think that is what OP is referring to.

      There is a tool that shows you what you have selected that can help.

      IMO Gimp isn’t very well documented so you can get stuck for a while before you understand what is going on.

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    I have no idea how selection works anywhere else, since I only ever used gimp.

    For me, I don’t understand this meme, selection seems to work very intuitively, it seems to do what I expect it to do.

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    These people who hate GIMP didn’t really practice with it all that much. I use for my day job, editing photos and making content for marketplaces. It works very well. The workflow may be different to PS, yes, but that does not make GIMP bad. Also, for those who hate the UI, two things. First, why don’t you help the dev team? And second, we’ll have GTK3 support soon (finally).

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      GIMP is bad. If the problem was simply that it was “different to PS” then other apps like Krita and Affinity Photo would have the same reputation.

      If a user goes looking for a tool or feature and it’s not in the first place they look, that’s a problem of “didn’t really practice that much”. If experienced people need to look up how to do basic operations and their reaction is “that’s fucking stupid”, then the software is bad.

      To then say “well why don’t you help the Dev team then” is insane. I’m not spending hundreds of hours digging GIMP out of bad design decisions when I could just use better software and I haven’t seen any evidence that my PR would even be accepted.

      Nobody needs excuses and apologism, they need Blender for image editing and GIMP just isn’t that.

      • NιƙƙιDιɱҽʂ@lemmy.world
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        I mean, I’ve been using GIMP as my primary photo editor for…over a decade. When I use other programs, nothing is where I expect it to be and I think “well, that’s fucking stupid”

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          So you open any other image editor, click the rectangle select button, draw a rectangle, then select a move button beside the rectangle select tool, then it moves the rectangle you just selected and you think “That’s fucking stupid, it should’ve moved the entire image, not the rectangle I just selected!”

          Really?

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            Yes, really. If my move tool is set to layer move, dont change it just because I used the select tool for something completely unrelated. That is the typical dumbed down big colorful button approach that I hate in modern corporate software.

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              Look, that you’re used to the garbage UI doesn’t change that it’s garbage and in dire need of a fundamental revamp. If almost everyone here (and everywhere else) says that it sucks or is intransparent, then YOU may be the odd one out here ;)

              Imagine hating usable software you don’t need a PhD for. It’s kinda pathetic to make this your point of pride.

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              No, but “fix it yourself” is apparently a completely acceptable response if someone criticizes GIMP.

              Anyway, I don’t care how bad the tools you use are, but it’s time to stop acting shocked when industry professionals have no interest in GIMP and don’t take anyone who advocates it as a Photoshop alternative seriously.

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                Nobody is acting shocked. Least the people who learned to use GIMP.

                The problem is people like you who are outraged, when asking for a free Photoshop alternative, that the next best thing is not to their likening.

                And yes “consider fixing it yourself” is absolutely a valid response for GIMP issues because GIMP is made by volunteers For Photoshop it a bullshit response because it’s made by a billion dollar company which charges you for the development and use.

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                  Nobody is acting shocked. Least the people who learned to use GIMP.

                  So the people who learn GIMP are fully aware why it gets zero industry use? Thanks, that was my point.

                  The problem is people like you who are outraged, when asking for a free Photoshop alternative, that the next best thing is not to their likening.

                  I’m not outraged in the slightest, nor am I asking for a free Photoshop alternative. But I’ve seen people claiming GIMP is a viable alternative to Photoshop for 20 years and for anything past the most basic use cases, it isn’t. You may as well be telling people to use Nano instead of Visual Studio and when they complain about the experience, tell them to code the features themselves.

                  GIMP has had literally decades of development and even with Photoshop in the worst state it’s ever been in, it isn’t competitive. There are clearly systemic issues with the project and I’m certain this “head in the sand” mentality is at least partly to blame.

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      I tried. I really tried to like GIMP. The main reason I don’t like it is because it’s trying so hard to be a professional picture editor and the UI.

      Why can’t I deselect things? Why does something need to be selected at all times? Let me just click a button and remove the selection outline and deselect things.

      No. I won’t help the dev team because I can’t code to save my ass. I turn wrenchs and fix things for a living.

      I use other, simpler pic editors. Why should I learn to fly a Boeing 747 when a Cessna 172 will get me where I need to go? I’m making a shit post once every three months, not professional art.

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    I have used Gimp for years and I actually do not understand this meme. Like, do you not understand how image selection and/or layers work? What tf did you think would happen except for exactly what happens?

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      maybe its because of the thing where you select something and try moving it and it moves the whole layer? thats the only thing ive ever had a problem with in gimp

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        Ooohh, okay, I get how that could be unintuitive. Thank you.

        It’s better to separate it to another layer so I do it without realizing. If you have trouble with outlines forming then use copy instead of cut.