The latest plea for official Proton support started on Reddit, where Scout339v2 shared their screenshot of Rust running “on a server with EAC disabled to show that the game already works perfectly on Linux.” Disabling Easy Anti-Cheat (EAC) is the key factor here, and part of a broader conversation where Facepunch and its Linux/Proton userbase don’t see eye-to-eye.
While it’s true Rust runs on Proton, you can’t join official servers, and most unofficial servers, with EAC disabled. Facepunch considered changing its stance in 2022 when the Steam Deck launched, but didn’t end up introducing official Proton support. COO Alistair McFarlane said at the time that Linux is “safer for cheat developers,” and that trying to support EAC on another platform could reduce the team’s ability to support Windows.
If you’re willing to spend some money on cheating there’s no way to prevent people from just aimbotting based on video output and feeding it as USB mouse commands. These anti-cheat systems are just shit solutions compared to server-side culling, superhuman reflex detection and report/review systems with premium servers and bans. Just give people in-game currency for correctly agreeing with the consensus and some people will go nuts on it for less than $1 per hour of in-game items.
Anti-cheat systems basically fuck with the kernel so if a game has it there’s a case for not playing it.
Actually, games that force kernel level spyware on users to combat cheating when the company literally controls the servers the game runs on and can afford to pay for moderators are not serious about catching cheaters.
What a stupid excuse. It is possible to detect cheaters without even touching memory or cpu. You could do the magic on the servers, if you are really serious about anti-cheat.
And I actually liked facepunch, especially what Garry was doing.
Edit: Checked who Alistair McFarlane is. Just a producer. Has no idea about technical stuff. So why the fuck do they let them speak about technical topics if he clearly has no clue about them?!
Game Developers who don’t want to support Linux are not serious about developing games but getting more dollars for each dollar spent so an imaginary Stock Exchange line can go up.
oh noooo, what am I gonna do if I cant play the game that typically involves me being chased by heavily armed end game players, screaming racial slurs at me for no good goddamn reason other than sociopathy?
I guess I’ll just have to console myself with the thousand other games that run perfectly fine because their devs arent self absorbed fuckwads.
Skill issue
Much like people who craft their games with human hands aren’t really serious about AI generated art.
Ok. I’ll continue to play Elden ring, assassin’s creed, hollow knight silk song, and all these other great games. There are so many good games to play, I’m good to skip rust.
Rust isn’t serious about anti cheat though…
beat me to it
It’s interesting how gamers are supposed to have a problem with people cheating in a video game, but not with their computer being compromised by bad actors.
True and usually hackers find a workaround.
If ring-0 access is the only way you can stop cheaters, your game must be poorly programmed.
Nah, cheating is just absurdly hard to stop. Even ring 0 anti cheat doesn’t stop it entirely. At some point, I feel like the answer is similar to piracy, in that you must accept that there’s going to be some amount of it, and then find a way to mitigate the damage. Because there are solutions to both of them that both go too far.
I think the way that CS does it is really the best one. Prevent the simple cheats, record games and let people handle the edge cases based on reports and suspicious activity.
While I agree that this is usually enough, you end up with the issue that with volume the process becomes bogged down to the point of inefficiency. The best bet is to implement this system with a much more robust server side cheat detection, and ideally not send occult information or recieve bad information from the clients to minimize the damage that can be done with a cheat.
I didn’t know CS did this, but yeah, at a high level, that’s how I’d address it, too. It’s probably not a solution that scales super well due to the manual review required, and I know that game has a reputation of people still being annoyed by cheaters, but it might be the best we can do without being very invasive, like the ring 0 stuff.
Reminds me that DRM used to run Kernel Side until software side drm was the safest/less sketchy option.
The words of a man who made a game that is now irrelevant mean nothing to the ravenous Linux user.
Then I have ‘no plans’ on ever giving them money for their shitty designed game
Oh, this is about that shitty survival game‽ I thought it was talking about the rust language. I was so very confused.
I love having rootkits on my pc to play a poorly coded and Un-optimized game!
Games that have no plans for Linux are not serious about gamers.
