• Gil Wanderley@lemmy.eco.br
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    6 hours ago

    Guy drawing dicks: “I make people laugh when the world is on fire, people are dying, and the police is the police”

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    Police do not stop crimes, at least not here in the USA. Police punish after the crime happens, at best.

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      8 hours ago

      Okay but it’s literally a picture of a police officer showing that the criminal is already behind bars. Thereby preventing that criminal from committing future crimes. That is one way to stop crimes.

      • SinAdjetivos@lemmy.world
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        That’s the logic behind prison, but not the reality.

        Locking a person in a cage does not solve whatever underlying issue led to the crime in the first place. The resulting trauma and stigma almost certainly makes it worse once they get out of prison causing crimes.

        Or they are locked in a cage forever for the most menial of crimes, at which point they themselves are the victims of a greater crime.

      • slazer2au@lemmy.world
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        2 days ago

        Only for the insurance company to deny coverage because Mercury was in retrograde during a waxing moon which nullifies the claim. Is outlined in the product disclosure statement that you said you read. On page 34 of 72.

      • Clay_pidgin@sh.itjust.works
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        I imagined that everywhere cops mostly react to crimes already committed. Less frequently but still frequently they prevent crimes by their presence. Much less frequently would they have the opportunity to stop a crime in progress.

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        I’d argue it’s more deterrent than ‘stopping’ in most cases. I’d also argue they’re not much more deterring than knowing someone with a gun, some friends, and the ability to use said gun is around. At least for the petty stuff that doesn’t take a jail system to break up.

        • realitaetsverlust@piefed.zip
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          In my experience, cops are extremely fast tho - at least in larger cities. If you live somewhere rural or even in the middle of nowhere, well, they’re going to need some time to be there. It’s not like they can just materialize at a crime scene.

          I’d also argue they’re not much more deterring than knowing someone with a gun, some friends, and the ability to use said gun is around

          Are you saying you want people to own guns?

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            People already own guns (in the US anyways). They just don’t usually have the free pass to use it like cops have.

        • Digit@lemmy.wtf
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          Cops deterred me from having a productive life, leaving me a wreck with PTSD, after a gang of thugs broke into my home, tied me up, stole my medicine, and threatened to have me be raped as their prisoner for over a decade. And I could not call the cops on them, because they were the cops.

    • Pearl@lemmy.ml
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      That’s where the hero stories that go nationwide come from.

      • hero cop stops a mall mass shooter
      • watch this cop escort pregnant woman to hospital with full sirens
      • off duty cop does chest compressions until ambulance arrives
      • cop talks down POC with a knife/gun

      A few good apples shine up the bunch

    • Courant d'air 🍃@jlai.lu
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      Anything you say

      Can and will be used

      Against you in a court of law. You have the right to talk to a lawyer for advice

      Before we ask you any questions.

      Read between the lines

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    Cops almost never stop crimes. Even when they rarely do their job correctly they just show up afterwards to arrest people. Thats also how it should be, but recently it seems like politicians are hellbent on making them “prevent” crimes before they happen which requires lots of privacy invasion.

    • Digit@lemmy.wtf
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      I’ve seen police commit crimes and breach statutory regulations an order of magnitude more than I’ve seen other people do so… and they’re, what, 1% of the population? If that? … Which means on average they’re each generating about 1000 times more crime than each member of the public are, and not catching the culprits, let alone preventing it. They’re causing it, and letting the perpetrators get away with it, because they are the perpetrators.

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      Cops, paramedics, and fight fighters are all inherently reactive forces. While more could be done for them to be proactive outside of the fire department most of those proactive measures are outside of their perview.

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        I’d love frequent visits from the fire service, to check up on eliminating fire hazards around my home, making sure I have the correct fire extinguishing equipment and know how to use it, checking fire detectors and alarms, etc.

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      Even if cops acted the way we thought they did when we were kids, it’s nearly impossible to stop/prevent crime unless they were already there beforehand. Security guards prevent more crime than cops.

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      Close. Politicians are hellbent on making them invade privacy, using “preventing” crimes before they happen as a pretext.

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        Also, petty crimes can be prevented without surveilence by robust social safety nets.

        Fascism and grift (or chronic violence and lying crimes), including in the workplace, have to be manually overthrown by tolerant in-group unity.

      • 🍉 Albert 🍉@lemmy.world
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        We can generalize that it is art, and although, in a very pragmatic sense, art is useless. it is one of those things that makes living worth it.

        Which is a much more important service than the one the cop provides