every week more or less, it’s basically just as often as I remember. oh and whenever I have to update a program for security reasons, like a system wide patch or a new browser release, that sorta thing. using opensuse tumbleweed btw
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A lost fedditor?
as someone who is a dev by trade I update/backup on fridays because I think it’s funny.
It’s always funny, until that one day where it isn’t
PC-LOAD-LETTER, wtf does that mean?!
e: You guys are making me feel old for not getting this reference: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Office_Space
Just a few weeks (months?) ago:
Replace package nvidia with nvidia-open? [y/n] Y
Queue having to redo all my previous work to get the integrated graphics card and the dedicated graphics card playing well with each other
For those that don’t know:
PC = Printer Cartridge (the place where you put ink or paper for it to use)
Letter = 8 1/2 x 11 inch letter sized paper, which is similar to A4
So the message means to load letter sized paper in the printer cartridge, because the sensor says it is empty.
PC in this context stands for Paper Cassette, an old HP term for the paper tray.
It means you need more paper.
And then, inevitably:
but “yay” already does that
Yay ; flatpak update
Yeah I just have an alias called update that runs all of the update commands, as well as a few other things
topgrade
*paru
whenever something is broken
You update your broken system to fix it.
I update my working system to brake it.
we are not the same
We might be the same
Update my mesa drivers mid-game? Yea fuck it why not
I have a script I run daily (named
daily) that makes a timeshift backup, checks for updates from pacman, then checks for updates from the AUR. I’m very fond of it :]Does paru -Syu not also include pacman, or do you just prefer to do pacman first?
I have never heard of paru until this very moment. I will look into it, thanks!
Heck yeah! I hope it helps simplify things!
This might be the first time my limited Linux knowledge has been helpful to an internet stranger. Feels good.
I’ve been using
yayfor years, and it is sufficient. First time I’ve heard of paru.Other than being written in rust, how does paru improve the experience of AUR wrapping?
I like typing yay and getting updates.
Googling it, it just seems like yay but in rust and it shows PKGBUILD by default. Still cool to find alternative tools though
To be honest, it’s just what I’ve been using since I switched to Cachy half a year ago. There was no conscious decision made between yay or paru.
I think Go and Rust are both great languages, but there are apparently some speed benefits from using rust/paru. That’s not anything I can factually confirm, just what I’ve heard.
I doubt that speed in a package manager would depend greatly on programming language choice. A package manager downloads the repository index, evaluates your current environment, decides what packages you need and then downloads them. You may get minor speed improvements due to a more performing programming language, but we’re talking about milliseconds differences in a process that likely takes several minutes. I wouldn’t take that into account when choosing across options. Indeed speed can greatly vary across package managers, but that mainly depends on implementation; as such you may have a package manager implemented in a slower language that is faster than one implemented in a faster language.
If I have to choose a package manager, I wouldn’t even consider speed and rather evaluate functionality. I don’t know paru, I imagine it allows doing what yay allows doing and as such I’d be satisfied with either of them.
When someone reminds me so thanks
Sometimes I let a Gentoo lapse on upgrades, just for the extra fun.
Every 1-2 weeks, depends on how often I remember
When I am bored. A few times per month in winter. Once or twice per summer.
We are still talking about updates, right?
Yes, why?
Just to be sure
Are you sure?
not really…
At most once per day. Sometimes I can go three weeks without remembering to upgrade
I do
sudo pacman -Syuas a ritual each time when I start my computer or laptop. Like, the very first thing after the system is booted. So far so good, been doing that for 7 years.alias p=“sudo pacman -Syu”
$ p $ p $ p
I had this too, but I use
ctrl + rall the time (withfzf), and really have no need for that many aliases.Used to have this, now I just
sudo dnf updatemy life is more relaxed.I don’t understand why Syncthing is still not version 2 on Fedora. Did I do something wrong? Did the repo changed? Apart from that, I agree, I really like Fedora on systems where I don’t want to mess with the system. But I do want to mess with my systems, that’s the point of Linux for me now :)
I didn’t even know syncthing 2 was released. As a service type of software I don’t really care too much for new features, I want it to be stable. Judging from this thread it wasn’t really stable until a couple months ago: https://forum.syncthing.net/t/syncthing-2-0-august-2025/24758/30
I guess I’m fine with that. Software for which I need the latest release I wouldn’t install from package manager anyway.
I used to mess a lot on my Linux system, now I just want it to work and not have to change anything. Still on default plasma config after years, I guess I just mess with my vim config and little else.
I can say about the stability, as I use Syncthing extensively and the version 2 since day one. It had the database issue, perhaps upon migration, which lead the program to crash on my Raspberry Pi 2B with 1 GB RAM. At some point I noticed the issue, removed the database and let it rebuilt it cleanly, which did the job and fixed the issue. Plus, I made a swap partition just in case. Haven’t seen any other issues after that. That was DietPi distro, based on Debian.
I had no issues like that on Arch, but my Arch desktops, laptops, and servers are more powerful, perhaps they handled the migration better. I expect that this was some bug that was fixed later. Fedora still syncs, but I wonder when would they update the repo, or if that’s me that wasn’t attentive somewhere and I need to change the repo. Maybe they follow the topic closer.
As far as I can see it has not been updated and someone is working on it. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2355938 Why does it matter for you to have version 2.0 anyway? As far as I understand it is interoperable with previous versions. At least, I didn’t have any problems until now.
Once a day
maybe once every three or more months
My Debian trixie desktop system rotates /var/log/apt/history once a month. So over the past year:
$ zgrep upgrade /var/log/apt/history.log*gz|wc -l 25 $ ls /var/log/apt/history.log*gz|wc -l 12 $25 upgrades in 12 months. So about twice a month on average on that one.
