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    A single late salary payment (even by a day) is code red to jump ship.
    Regardless of any excuses or reasons they give you –
    This kills every employee’s trust in the company at once.
    Even if it wasn’t fucked before, it is now.
    (And if a company that wasn’t already fucked decides to pay salaries late for any reason, then whoever is in charge is such a colossal idiot, it’ll be fucked soon anyway.)

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      The only time I’ve had a late salary payment, it was because of an issue with the vendor that was fixed within a day or two.

      I’m willing to cut my employer a little slack when the process fucks up and they’re johnny on the spot letting you know and giving a timeline. You tell me that there’s a delay because of funds or lazy fuckery, I’m looking for a new job asap.

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      Think ai was trained on previous data from lying and manipulative not the other way around lol

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    That’s really exciting, because today you’re also starting a new patience building initiative, holding off on your productivity. It’s not a delay of work, it’s time for management to reflect on priorities and reassess administrative operations unburdened by the distractions of ongoing worker functions. Remember that reevaluating delivery timelines in the face of productivity-function realignment is necessary for lean, responsive leadership. At the conclusion of this patience building exercise, which remember is not a delay but meditation on what it means to not get paid, discussions can be opened again on strategies to return to exceptional productivity.

    And remember, even the most efficient engines need fuel, without that there really is no movement to begin with.

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      Maybe it is, but I’ve worked for a startup that did this.
      Not with that same phrasing, but similar (standing together in tough times, willing to sacrifice, …)
      They folded 3 months later.

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    i knew a couple of start up people.

    a lot of people involve are already rich. they don’t need pay and they are basically gambling on the payday in equity.

    they also tend to have a delusional sense of how important they are doing. i once went out with someone who was just trying to clone grubhub or whatever, but without any car delivery as some ‘eco’ version of it. they were not a smart person. probably a talented dev though.

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      business people and finance people, in my experience are not smart people.

      the smartest people ive met are, you probably guessed, scientists: physicists for book smarts and a broad overall intelligence, but sociologists, social psychologists.

      being very confident is negatively correlated with intelligence and wisdom as ive seen in the world, and all it takes to buy for a dollar and sell for two is not having a strong moral compass and being unduly confident

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        pretty much.

        but i’ve met plenty of stupid scientists and psychologists. usually when they try to apply their expertise to other areas where it doesn’t apply.

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    JFC the amount of self deluding in this mail is staggering.

    “We’re not just a startup, we’re a movement” yeah keep telling yourself that, buddy, but employees are paid or gone.

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    The amount of money in fines a company have to pay in my country if they do that is bigger than the salaries. If it happens twice the company cam even be closed

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    5 sentences and 3 of them are

    “Its not x its y” the most basic overly generated ai sentence of all time.

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      Depends on where in the world.

      In my case, if it should happen to me, I would call the union and stop working immediately. The union would then contact the company to inform them of their obligation to pay me and of the fee which doubles every day until they pay. If they fail to pay me and the fees within the set deadline, which is usually 5 days, the working court would quickly send a declaration of bankruptcy. The company don’t get a say in that court. Only the unions of employees and the unions of employers have access. A simple matter like this is resolved quickly because unfortunately there are plenty of precedent cases.

      At that point I wouldn’t really give a shit if the company pays or goes bankrupt, because my salary would be paid to me either way. If the company can’t pay, we have a fund to cover salaries to employees of bankrupted companies.

      It’s somewhat more complicated for people outside of unions. They have to pay a lawyer to battle it through civil court. They’ll usually win but it can take months and cost a lot.

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        To any Americans reading this:
        This isn’t Socialism or Communism, by the way.
        It’s Free Market Economy the way it was meant to be implemented in a Democracy originally (to everyone’s benefit according to Adam Smith), before corruption gradually killed it in the US.

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      Most likely contacting their state’s department of labor and filing a complaint. However, I don’t know what kind of timeline they run on or how likely they are to actually sort the issue state-by-state.

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    Tell that to the bill collectors and landlords…

    Yeah. You’ll find yourself patiently waiting in the soup kitchen line and then waiting for a spot at the shelter.