• SpiceDealer@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    I’d argue that an armed uprising would have a greater effect than a smaller internet-based boycott but I’m just some random guy on some niche internet forum so… who’s to say?

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      Sam Altman is just some fail upward money guy, he’s been eventually removed from basically every prior position he has held.

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    Yea, I can just imagine OpenAI is really struggling with their business decision.

    On the one hand, they have multi-billion dollar contracts with the US Military that will make them all fabulously wealthy beyond their wildest dreams.

    On the other, they have a handful of individuals leaving that might amount to a few thousand dollars of lost revenue.

    Gosh, it must sure have been a tough choice.

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    So many companies are cozying up to the fascist regime as this is the late stage of capitalism.

    A list of some of these companies: https://x.com/vxunderground/status/2024200204296061089?s=20

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    I’ve been “canceling” them since they first showed up and I used it for 5 minutes and realized how terrible it is, but nice to see others catching up.

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    I cannot believe this is what it took for a boycott to go more mainstream. Tell me more about how so many people have no respect for the environment or the artists who’s work they gleefully consume.

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      Anthropic is scum, accepting money from foreign dictators, forcing their software on minorities while insisting it was human just like them, praising the Trump administration, making up scary stories to get more funding…

      …In many ways, they’re worse than OpenAI. They’re just running with the same playbook that Sam Altman used to use to pretend he was a good guy.

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    This honestly strikes me as a story people don’t understand. Mass surveillance is not lawful and the government thus agreed not to do that. However, they still needed the guardrails removed. People interpret this as them wanting mass surveillance, but that’s not necessarily true.

    I work for a company that uses AI for legal work, processing and analyzing court cases, discovery documents, etc. We had problems with AI models like Gemini and GPT refusing to do what we needed because of guardrails against violence and abuse of minors. It refused to discuss and analyze cases that involved murders described in detail, or cases involving child molestation, etc. We weren’t using it for unlawful purposes, very much the opposite.

    I feel like if people knew that we, like the DoD, had to use uncensored models that allowed such things, people would complain “Wow, you guys are trying to remove guardrails for child expoitation and violence! How terrible!”

    Is it so shocking that a military needs their AI to work with such things even if they’re not implementing it? They cannot afford to have AI in critical moments be like “sorry, my guidelines say I can’t help with this.”

    This seems like the time Trump advised against pregnant women against using Tylenol. So people started buying and using it in protest. This is yet another reaction to Trump punishing them, but people are pretending Anthropic is making a stand for the people and OpenAI is somehow not. It’s not that simple. Though now Anthropic is eating it up, especially after this last week when they started pissing on the entire tech community that started hating on them.

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      The military, the department of government responsible for mass murder, should not have any fucking AI in their system, absolutely anywhere. Doubly so without any sort of guardrails.

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        Why? I can’t think of any reason that would not also preclude their usage if all computer assisted tools.

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          Because no other computer assisted tools are straight up fucking wrong half the time?

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      There are bad actors in government. People working those cases like the ones you did have way more integrity than the bad faith actors in the DoD. There are bad faith actors in governments breaking the law every day.

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      Shame on you and your company for introducing AI at all into such sensitive matters. This issue is not just about security and privacy but about outsourcing human judgement when human life is on the line.

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        Wait. You still trust human judgment that much?

        My company has facilitated the filings of hundreds of litigants representing themselves who cannot afford lawyers, helped swamped public defenders with more cases than they could ever hope to defend without just making plea deals.

        Meanwhile you probably sit around complaining about prison industrial complex and corrupt justice system. Doing nothing. Taking a moral high ground while being utterly worthless.

        Platitudes aren’t helping anyone.

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      It sounds like the assertions here are:

      1. “Mass surveillance is not lawful and the government thus agreed not to do that.” Which is to say- the government will not do something if it is illegal.

      2. The greater good of the work that the Department of Defense needs to do may justify infringement of some individual liberties.

      3. The Department of Defense is run by lawful actors who can be trusted to make lawful decisions based on their own discretion.

      Is this right?

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    mainstream

    I’ll believe that when my sisters start saying this. Till then, it’s just us privacy fans screaming in a dark cave, enjoying the echo.

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      It’s always like this. We get a ton of articles on how everyone is suddenly boycotting/deleting [insert thing] but when you ask someone in real life, they usually have no idea what you’re talking about.

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    Use for “all lawful means” is quite the grey area considering no one was arrested or fired, or any law updated, for what Snowden leaked. If the NSA does it, no one will arrest the NSA.

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      I laughed when I read “all lawful means.”

      Those are almost the exact words that you’re supposed to use for a NFA form 1 / 4 when registering certain types of firearms / firearms parts that require a tax stamp, and additional scrutiny.

      When I did my SBR registration, it was “all lawful purposes…” but fuck, close enough…

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    The Department of War isn’t a real thing. Its called The Department of Defense. That’s not my opinion either, its officially/legally called The Department of Defense.

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        Only Congress can change the name of the Department of Defense, and not only has it not passed any legislation to do so, but the most National Defense Authorization Act, which was passed after Trump’s executive order, only mentions the “Department of Defense” and never the “Department of War”.

        So, no, there is not officially a Department of War, there continues to only officially be a Department of Defense.

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          Oh, well today I learned. I had assumed that even the world’s dumbest government officials wouldn’t refer to themselves as being part of a department that doesn’t actually exist, but here we are.

          Thanks for laying it out for me!

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          You’re right. I researched it, and it was just changed 6 months ago by Trump, who claimed the new name “sends a message of victory”

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            No. Trump declared it changed, much like Michael Scott declaring bankruptcy. Until there is an act of Congress changing the name, it is still the DoD, and the Kennedy Center is the Kennedy Center, and so on.

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              And it’s still the Gulf of Mexico. I used to call it “the gulf” but now I have to call it the Gulf of Mexico.

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    Windows Central shouldn’t be parroting the U.S. government in mislabeling the Department of Defense.