Microsoft reaffirmed its commitment to AI in Windows 11 and encouraged Electron developers to consider using AI in their apps.

Electron apps are ruining the Windows 11 experience, and even the JavaScript creator has warned against ‘rushed web UX over native,’ but it doesn’t look like that will change Microsoft’s plans. In a post on X and other places, Microsoft reaffirmed its commitment to AI in Windows 11 and encouraged Electron developers to consider using AI in their apps.

  • LiveLM@lemmy.zipEnglish
    15·
    9 hours ago

    1. Not really surprising considering Windows seems to be increasingly swapping their native shell components for Web Views (you can tell because sometimes they fail to load (: )

    2. You know it’s bad when Brendan fucking Eich is the reasonable one

  • Blackmist@feddit.ukEnglish
    30·
    15 hours ago

    Sure, I love it when a 50KB app takes 50MB because some cunt designer only knows HTML.

    • khánh@lemmy.zipEnglish
      6·
      8 hours ago

      Basically, you know how Spotify allows you to use the version you access on the web as if it’s an app (all the features are there)? That’s called a Progressive Web App (PWA). Basically, Electron apps open up their own browser to run a PWA. Why is this bad? 2 Chrome tabs already take up a lot of memory. Now imagine 3.

  • this@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
    9·
    15 hours ago

    I would actually be for keyboards having a dedicated AI key, because then I would always have a key to remap to my voice PTT without loosing anything useful.

  • GreenKnight23@lemmy.worldEnglish
    10·
    15 hours ago

    this solidifies two of my predictions from 15-20 years ago.

    1. Microsoft is moving to an “internet required” OS, likely meaning cloud based OS
    2. all apps will become web apps

    1000003241

    my final prediction from then was subscription based access to your operating system, apps, and data. you own nothing. your data is constantly consumed and used to train their products. you will never be able to extract your data and will be forever locked-in to their product. this also means that you will have to pay extra for app use. need to use Photoshop? that’s an extra fee. need to use 3D rendering software? thats the ultra package with GPU fees per hour.

    most of this is actually happening under the covers, but nothing is locking us in.

    I would say we have about 5-7 years before the above happens and there’s no way back.

  • DupaCycki@lemmy.worldEnglish
    38·
    21 hours ago

    -> push software that needs tons of ram

    -> cause ram shortage

    -> ???

    -> …profit?

    • paris@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
      11·
      17 hours ago

      At least for Enterprise where the real money is, “???” seems to be https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-365/windows-365-enterprise

      This isn’t some grand plan 5d chess. The people running these companies are dumb as hell and lucky. They get convinced from one silicon valley thought leader’s blog post that ai and electron are the future and then direct the entire company in that direction thinking they’re a great leader who will be remembered for pushing the company in a novel direction at just the right time. They attend a talk by a different thought leader who talks about a future of ai cloud computers that anyone can access from anywhere with more computational power than could ever fit into the shitty laptop they’re accessing it from, then they go to the board meeting the next day with their bright new idea to do cloud personal desktops.

      These companies are entirely responding to (nonsensical) market forces and the whims of high ranking individuals within their ranks. It’s painful and ridiculous.

      • paris@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
        1·
        17 hours ago

        To be clear, there are some benefits to provisioning enterprise devices in a tightly controlled cloud environment, but we’ve all seen ideas with “some benefits” get shot down by managers and CEOs who “don’t get why anyone would want that” so I’m not keen on giving Microsoft too much credit.

      • Passerby6497@lemmy.worldEnglish
        1·
        20 hours ago

        Posting scammy Amazon links feels like cheating when having these discussions, but I kinda get where they’re coming from. The fact that people can try to sell a laptop with only 64gb disk is absolutely mental to me, because that’s not even enough to let the BASE OS run normally and update reliably. And that’s before you start doing anything on it.

  • Jankatarch@lemmy.worldEnglish
    18·
    22 hours ago

    Javascript creator thinks they are rushing things.
    Javascript creator thinks they are rushing things.

  • katy ✨@piefed.blahaj.zoneEnglish
    12·
    21 hours ago

    the worst thing about electron apps besides everything about election apps are the fact that there’s no shared libraries so you basically have to have a billion of the same node modules on your system for every electron app that you have.