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    Sex work is still work. They deserve dignity and recognition for what they do for the rest of us. In my moments of solitude only Lulu brings warmth to my life. She’s awesome. I hope things go well to all you guys who do porn for us ugly people.

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    Funny, but taxes ARE cool. Anyone who disagrees is welcome to do the research by living in any number of failed states.

    Don’t be that guy that goes to dinner with a large group of friends then skips out on the bill.

    Edit: quality shitpost!

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      Nothing inherently wrong with taxation. The problems are how taxes are determined, how they’re collected, and how that money is distributed.

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        Exactly. Conceptually, taxation isn’t left, but the way some governments use those funds absolutely is theft.

        Not to mention how angry people are about taxation, but are also completely unaware that conceptually, profit is actually left of your surplus value.

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        Modern governments with their own Fiat currencies don’t use taxes to pay for anything. The money doesn’t get distributed, it gets destroyed to control inflation.

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            It really is how this works.
            It’s just that nobody realised until the last couple decades. And now we have a century of inertia behind economic theories that say otherwise. A century of economic theory that’s been horrible at predicting the real economy by the way.

            But it’s not difficult to understand.
            If a government can make money out of nothing to pay for anything it needs to (the definition of fiat currency), then it doesn’t need to collect taxes to pay for things. If it doesn’t need to taxes to pay for things, then what do taxes do? Taxes remove money from the economy, offsetting the money added by government spending from nothing. This is direct inflation control.

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              You’re onto a piece of something, but it’s a partial truth that you’ve perhaps over generalized.

              To your point, America is exporting it’s inflation globally so it can buy things with money it doesn’t have. I also agree to your point that neoliberal economics, especially how it is discussed in public through western (American) & billionaire owned media and government is a sham. This is some of the kernel of truth you speak of.

              You overstate your case when you talk about taxation and economics as a whole. Don’t throw the baby out with the bathwater just because someone else shit in the tub.

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                I don’t understand.

                exporting it’s inflation globally

                Do you mean inflation as increasing prices?
                Or increasing money supply?

                I’m not sure either matters realy, as the USD is the global currency. Foreign and domestic together, are a single economy from point of view of the USD.

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                  That’s it! You answered your own question. Because it’s the global reserve currency, it can inflate its money supply and gain the domestic benefits of money for nothing, but the negative impacts of “relatively more dollars chasing relatively fewer goods” are diluted among all global economies using the USD.

                  It’s a limited and temporary advantage. As the world is finding out the hard way, any dealing with US assets now poses incalculable geopolitical risks. Not just from losing the defacto reserve status, but both from abandoning the rule of law for autocracy as well as from disruptive warmongering, tarrifs, broken deals, loss of trust and the inability to bargain in good faith.

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              Taxes don’t remove money from the economy, it’s just a way the money circulates through it. Taking a loan and paying it back isn’t removing money.

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                That’s the old economic model that treats a government like any other organization in the economy. It’s not.

                Taxes aren’t loans. Banks aren’t governments. Completely different and uncomparable.

                The difference is banks don’t control their own currency. That single difference changes everything.

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                  The difference is banks don’t control their own currency. That single difference changes everything.

                  Me again! (Sick of me yet?) This too is at least partly incorrect. Especially in the context of the US. While true the Treasury has ultimate control over the currency, the Federal Reserve has effective control over the important levers like rates and quantitative changes. The Fed is a private banking cartel made up of the big private banks.

                  Even in most other countries where central banking is government run, it’s still an arms length agency.

                  The other dude is right as per my lrevious post and his. Taxes are neutral. Increase government spending by reducing taxpayer spending.

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      paved roads/wastewater treatment/food safety/free public education intensifies

      “The government is robbing us blind! It’s just like before the American Revolution, the winning local/state political candidate isn’t the one that I voted for, this is oppression!”

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      I’d rather live in a world without government or currency. Taxes suck, but only insofar as it legitimizes and enables the monopoly of violence

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      Anyone who disagrees is welcome to do the research by living in any number of failed states.

      Currency is a tool of authoritarian governments to extract labor via the threat of poverty and state sanctioned violence.

      Taxes are a means of legitimizing that violence by recharacterizing an extortionary rent as interpersonal debts, and the violence of collections as just compensation

      Anyone who disagrees is welcome to live in the fascist police states that impose these rents on their people, then assault and imprison them by the million.

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        Taxes are not theft. They are contributing to the group that shares resources like water and services like roads. These are not naturally forming, they are planned and maintained by people doing a job who need to be compensated.

        The problem with taxes is who is taxed. If only a few hundred families control a majority of the wealth, why are you paying taxes? They need to be taxed back down to the quality of life that we live.

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          Taxes are not theft. They are contributing to the group that shares resources like water and services like roads.

          They are not contributing to anything. Taxation is fully decoupled from public spending, which is why the US can issue $1.8T in new Treasury bonds in a year to no noticeable effect.

          Public utilities (such that exist - most of them have been privatized in everything but name) operate on the expectation that the staff providing engineering expertise and materials can enjoy a reasonably comfortable quality of life. Setting aside that most utilities bill separately from state and local taxation (I pay a monthly water bill and a gas tax per gallon to fund these amenities), they are provided at an extraordinary mark-up that the actual staff don’t get to enjoy. As a case in point, Houston waste removal services have been chipped away at since COVID, with staff working longer hours for lower pay using outdated equipment. The mayor has outsourced more and more of the work to a private contractor owned by one of his mega-donor friends. What money is collected via property taxes goes first into the profits of the private contracting agencies, then to their administrators, and only at last to trickle down on the actual laborers collecting the trash.

          Meanwhile, the housing and personal transport and groceries and other lifestyle amenities required by the waste management workers is… once again outsourced to the private sector, where owners take their cut first and labor gets the dredges. The end result is a working class mired deeper and deeper into debt, while the landed class grows fatter and richer.

          This isn’t taxation paying for labor or materials. This is taxation paid out as a rent to landlords and cronies.

          The problem with taxes is who is taxed.

          That’s a system functioning as intended. Taxation is rent-seeking at the governmental scale. You don’t tax your aristocrats, because they’re supposed to be the recipients of the labor surplus. You tax the laborers, because you need a legalized mechanism for extracting any surplus remaining with them, in order to redistribute it to your aristocratic peers.

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        I’m pleased that you can conceptually see this “possibility”, for lack of a better word. It speaks of creativity and imagination.

        That your conclusion seems locked-in on this possibility as the only solution, is needlessly below your abilities and shows mental rigidity or tunnel vision.

        Currency and Taxation CAN and HAVE been weaponized as you described, but so has a carrot. Just because a carrot CAN and HAS been used to stab through someone’s eye and pierce their brain, killing them, doesn’t mean that this is what carrots are for, or how public policy should treat carrots.

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          That your conclusion seems locked-in on this possibility as the only solution

          I’m mostly just being contrary.

          Currency and Taxation CAN and HAVE been weaponized as you described, but so has a carrot.

          You’re going to have to cite how carrots were weaponized by the state to legitimize violence.

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      Capitalism is not cool, taxes are thus not cool.

      Directly working to make your local community better is cool. Be the guy who comes over and helps you cook a meal with your other friends which you enjoy together.

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        Yeah, but can I be the guy who supplies industrial amounts of chlorine, alum, sodium hypochlorite, lime, ferric chloride, sodium hydroxide, activated carbon, polyphosphates, hydrogen peroxide, and ozone for disinfection for my local water treatment plant? Can you spare the steel and engineering brother? I’m so thirsty. Do you know anyone who is good at instrumentation and SCADA who wants in on our potluck?

        I also have to take a dump. Can I give it to you? After we wash our hands, we can cook a meal together.

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          Your right, the only way people would want to do a job such as make life better for other people is through exploitation.

          If we make them fear not having food or a home leading to death, we can force them to do the jobs you don’t want to do.

          You’re such a good friend!

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            Feel free to play with your little strawmen, just don’t fall under the delusion that you are having a conversation with anyone but the ghosts in your head.

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    This HAS to be old school meme, surely

    I duno if most of the youths today would recognise her

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    Taxes are cool when they work properly. The problem with taxes right now is that we’re not really getting much benefit for what we pay and those that have the most are not paying their fair share. Not only that, a large portion of our tax money is going directly to those companies that refuse to pay taxes.

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      In the U.K. we have this really cool thing known as “in work benefits” where the government tops up your income cause companies pay such shit wages.

      Reform, one of the popular right wing parties wants to cut the benefits bill, which will include this and pensions. It’s exciting to find out how much damage that will cause, if they get in.