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    This is with a tonne of loss-making crap bundled in too. On top of the main rockets-that-blow-up business, which is at least predicated on politicians reliably being morons who will pay for rockets-that-blow-up.

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    I have no specific issue with millionaires. You work for 40 years and save up a nest egg so you can survive retirement. A million or two is totally reasonable for the golden years.

    Billionaires, on the other hand? They don’t need all that money, but they always want more.

    And the fact that we could see Musk become a trillionaire? Well, spellcheck says that isn’t a valid word, which is usually indicative of something so far from normal that even a computer can’t comprehend the scale.

    He could literally send the full trillion dollars to the U.S. Treasury to cover the tax breaks for the ultrawealthy passed past year and end up a pauper billionaire.

    For people who believe money doesn’t really exist, they sure do want more and more of it.

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      My spellcheck doesn’t recognize exabyte and zettabyte yet either. Same issue of common use and scale.

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      I agree… what the fuck is the difference of 10 billion and 110 billion?

      If you had 110 billion you could spend 5 million per day for 60 years… why the FUCK does a single person need that amount of money??

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            No lie, if I had that kind of money I’d pay my taxes in full and fuck off to the Bahamas with an entire year of calendar models, and still have money to hook my wife up with all the cabana boys she wants, and still have enough to create scholarships for huge numbers of kids to go to college and still have enough to invest in green energy and vaccines and low-cost insulin and still have enough money to pay for food and medicine assistance to underdeveloped nations and still

            Well you get the idea. It’s a ridiculous amount of money.

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              The absurdity is hiding in plain sight, but good Christians seem to forget that money is the root of all evil.

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                To be pedantic, it’s the love of money that is the root of all evil.

                For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows.

                1 Timothy 6:10

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        I don’t know the limit to how many FDIC accounts one is allowed to have open simultaneously, but I know the insured amount of $250k USD per account. I feel like the interest alone in a few accounts would be reasonable enough for the average American to live off of.

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          Depending on your investments, the interest and dividends off a few million dollars should be able to sustain someone entirely on its own while still growing in value over time.

          You don’t need to be a billionaire for that. It feels like the tax brackets need to go up to 100% after around a million or so in income.

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            So, slightly above the 1950s marginal tax rate that gave us the society the GOP wants to drag us back into without taxing the rich? That’s a stool with one leg.

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          If you’re a billionaire, you park your money in offshore tax havens and don’t worry about FDIC limits.

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      The market will make what the market will bear. If a whole bunch of SpaceX fanboys decide to buy at the valuation, then it will exist.

      Same reason some doofuses thought that a bunch of bits tied to a bunch of other bits that were in the shape of a funky monkey was worth millions and now it’s worth thousands.

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    Elon Musk’s xAI and SpaceX merged in February, valuing the company at over $1.25 trillion. SpaceX is now preparing for an initial public offering (IPO).

    One of the things that Musk has to do to get his trillion dollar pay package fully paid out from Tesla as CEO is to crank up Tesla’s market capitalization. Many people, including myself, would say that this is a pretty wildly unreasonable payout, that Musk, via the aid of a friendly board, is transferring a lot of shareholder assets to himself that a company acting in the interests of its shareholders probably would not. I’ve wondered if this is a gyration to advance that.

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/siladityaray/2025/09/05/tesla-proposes-compensation-plan-for-musk-that-could-be-worth-as-much-as-1-trillion/

    Elon Musk Threatened To Quit Tesla Before $1 Trillion Compensation Deal

    To receive his full compensation reward, Musk will need to meet the ambitious goal of raising Tesla’s market cap from around $1 trillion at present to $8.5 trillion within a ten-year period.

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      The only way he’s raising the market cap is by selling the company. Their market share is decreasing rapidly due to him.

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        It’s truly amazing how a guy almost universally beloved a decade ago has become his own biggest problem. Tesla would be humming along just fine with refreshing models on a cadence, some QA and without Musk.

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        So, I’d agree that he’s probably not doing a fantastic job of running Tesla as an auto company these days. However, if you consider Tesla to just be an auto company, its valuation is way too high. I think I heard someone put it along these lines a while back, that “Tesla is a solid auto company, but one valued at ten times what it’s worth.” The only way its present-day valuation can really be justified by an investor is if they think that the bulk of the company’s value is going to come from new things that it is doing and that those things will all be wildly successful, like robotaxi service and humanoid robots and all that. The value that would have to come to those for Tesla valuation not to already be wildly out of whack would have to be so large that what Tesla does as an auto company wouldn’t matter that much.

        EDIT:

        https://money.usnews.com/investing/stocks/tm-toyota-motor-corporation-adr

        Toyota: Market Cap: $264.50B, P/E 11.08

        https://money.usnews.com/investing/stocks/tsla-tesla-inc

        Tesla: Market Cap: $1333.16B, P/E 354.33

        https://money.usnews.com/investing/stocks/gm-general-motors-company

        General Motors: Market Cap: $65.77B, P/E 24.93