Reason number 5,386 to delete your Reddit account and encourage your friends & loved ones to do the same.
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I remember when reddit first got popular and the demise of Digg
I feel like we’re watching the demise or reddit now
The place is nothing but bots, they allow loser power tripping mods to ban you willy nilly with basically no appeal process. And now they’re gonna give you up to the govt
I’m sure shareholders are super stoked right now
A’right, this is disgusting, but it’s really not Reddit’s fault if a Grand Jury requests evidence.
spoiler
___Especially because the Grand Jury hasn’t even requested anything yet, I guess?
Today is a good day to use Lemmy.
Fuck Reddit and Fuck Spez.
They can’t fucking WAIT until this ID verification goes through. Literally frothing at the mouth for it.
I don’t get it. Once ID checks are here, do they think people will keep expressing these kinds of opinions publicly? Oh course not, they’re just going to keep going further underground online or find offline ways, do they really think we’ll just keep posting incriminating stuff with our real name attached?
The oppression is the goal. They want you to tell 10 people locally, not 10 million worldwide.
Yeah but the 10 locals are the ones that might actually end up doing something instead of shouting into the digital void.
Fuck ICE
Once again, just in case no one heard, FUCK ICE
nice I like this… a lot
I can bearly say anthing on this platform. must be my home instance. You are so lucky you can cuss. Daddy won’t let me
I’ll say it for you then.
#FUCK ICE ✊
Actual title:
A Secret Grand Jury Is Seeking the Identity of a Reddit User Who Criticized ICE
It’s completely unclear what illegal thing the user is supposed to have done, other than dislike ICE.
Good god the title is very misleading. The grand jury hearing isn’t until April 14. It’s still chilling that the administration will go to these lengths to apparently silence criticism, but I’m not convinced there is more to this story. Although the reddit user in question is enlisting a civil liberties group to represent him, I’m thinking he/she may not be a terrorist mastermind who is a danger to the American people.
Big daddy capo_Corpo government is handing out the span_kings as the beatings will continue until the moral improves. It is about fear! This is not the first time that yan_kkk_eee land has acted this way.
So, the rule is very old already, actually: You can’t criticize ICE on Reddit if you’re an American citizen, because of this. And you can’t criticize ICE, Israel, Trump and etc. on Reddit even if you’re are not the USA citizen - because of bans on platform.
i heard its a “secret grand jury” whatever that means, probably chosen only jurors that would vote in thier favors, aka literally choosing biased jurors. since reddit is half or more as bots, it will be funny if they only found its a bot from another country. i have a hunch that reddit does not reveal thier bot activities, or how they are allowing them.
You must not remember the 944 Russian bot accounts from the 2016 election. Some of the accounts have been cleaned but reddit actually documented that bot activity pretty well.
ah pedonald trying to scare people. fuck him with a retractable baton.
That might bring him pleasure.
Dip him in acid.
Heh, which kind?
As a chemist, I recommend Hydrofloric acid
A friend of a friend died from spilling a small amount of HF onto himself.
concentrated HF is highly toxic and caustic, while diluted in water isnt that poisonous.
That calcium-loving one that eats your bones if you touch it?
I think you’re referring to hydrofluoric acid
I kinda wanna see the one that causes sensory blending and hallucinations.
And just fuck with him for…well how ever many days a dose like that would take to wear off.
Nah, give him shrooms and let the mushroom gods show him the weight of his own soul as it drags him beneath the rising tides of the abyss…
All of them
man i fuckin hate the us government. Do y’all really say shit like “pedonald” unironically though
do y’all say that shit and be like “heh yeah i got his ass”? do y’all say shit like “The Orange Menace” and think it’s the fuckin bomb dot com?
you old ass freaky mfs got that truth social energy going on. Y’all say some corn ball facebook auntie garbage and act like it’s tuff with two F’s
Can y’all act like normal human beings instead of this weird ass insulated secluded sector of the radicalized internet for a sec big dog like damn
slaughter conservatives and behead authority figures, stop this busted ass middle school style name calling though holy fuck
Who here is acting “tuff”? It seems more like it’s you than anyone else.
The masses are fucking morons and a threat to anyone trying to actually improve anything. Don’t hold your breath for them to abandon their dopamine dispensers.
This is a reminder to everyone. If you or someone you know is still on Reddit. Use an extension to bulk deleted everything before deleting the account. You’re friends and family are not safe posting on reddit.
Ya. I just got a 7 day ban for telling people to go and train with their guns at shooting ranges just to get used to using them before the civil war starts.
I am no fan of reddit but in this case Reddit appears to have championed this users anonymity going so far as to actively draw the ire of the administration.
- Reddit refused to comply with the initial administrative subpoena
- the Federal government came back with this grand jury subpoena and warned Reddit not to disclose the existence of the subpoena or they’d consider it interference in federal law enforcement
- Reddit complied with this new legally binding subpoena, but did not comply with the demand to keep it a secret. In the contrary, they immediately alerted the user of the subpoena which allowed him time to immediately lawyer up.
You’re not wrong that you’re not safe posting on Reddit, but if this case is any indication you’re not any less safe posting in Reddit than any other site, including Lemmy.
You’re not wrong that you’re not safe posting on Reddit, but if this case is any indication you’re not any less safe posting in Reddit than any other site, including Lemmy.
You can choose the location (and thus legal jurisdiction) of your home instance, but yeah, in general, I think that people need to be aware that server operators on the Threadiverse are probably not going to fight legal battles on your behalf.
We had someone ask about turning over IP addresses to law enforcement a while back on lemmy.today. The lemmy.today server admin gave what I’d call probably a pretty accurate answer.
https://lemmy.today/post/7255213
How will Lemmy Today handle IP subpoenas?
Lemmy instances are run by volunteers who wants to see a social media network without big tech.
I dont think you can trust any of those volunteers, including this one, to not comply with law enforcement. Thats not why we are running instances. Its about providing a platform without tracking, ads and algorithms for talking to other people and having a good time.
Hope that makes sense.
Use a VPN if you have a reason to. :)
It linked to a similar question for lemmy.dbzer0.com:
How will dbzer0 handle IP subpoenas?
Don’t know man. I’m not making enough in donations to pay for the server costs, never mind hiring lawyers. I’ll deal with this when I have to 😅
There are platforms more-aimed at providing harder pseudonymity. I’d put Hyphanet fairly high on the list of “a pain in the ass to track a poster down due to technical barriers” list (though that comes with very real performance and latency and suchlike costs).
To answer for Quokk.au. If I had to, I’d delete the instance and all data before ever handing anything over. They can take me to court if need be.
If you’re subpoenaed and a request for discovery is not met because you destroyed evidence, that comes with severe penalties. In court, you’d have to prove that you didn’t intentionally destroy data. You’ll have to find an attorney that can protect you against a government or powerful corporation.
Depending on the country and jurisdiction, intentional spoliation of data will lead to harsh penalties, criminal charges, expensive financial restitution, and jail time. Would you want to serve multiple years in jail and pay tens of thousands (or much more) in fines just to protect the data on your server? Would you want criminal charges and job loss, and the incredible difficulty of finding employment again when you get out of jail? Permanent criminal charges on your record for the rest of your life?
If yes, you’re very, very brave. Most other server owners would just comply. They’re already struggling to pay their bills, including serving Lemmy. Must be expensive trying to get legal representation when they’re ordered to turn over data.
I run an instance filled with trans people and anarchists, I would risk a lot to protect them from the state.
Big props to you! Thank you for defendeing their rights.
Props to you, homie. I didn’t personally know about your instance, so your character is courageous and exemplary. I’d like to think my values are aligned with yours as I’ll stand up for trans people, too.
While the likelihood of being served a subpoena to turn over your data is slim, just be careful. Remember - even if someone else wrote it, it’s YOUR data. If you already don’t have a great moderation team on your server, make sure to set ground rules and stamp out calls to violence and other things that would get someone in loads of trouble. The state won’t target an online community, but persons making active threats to the state (e.g., a call for assassination of a public figure, organising violence and harm, etc.) will get you in loads of trouble.
If I was on your server and some dipshit was threatening assassinating a politician or organising a hit, you got served a subpoena, and you were getting ready to delete your instance, I’d jump in and request you to stop. I don’t think it’d be worth nuking the whole community and all the data so you get punished on behalf of that one dipshit. Don’t think it’d be worth having your life destroyed because one edgelord thinks it’s great to say stuff like that online without reprisal, in our state-sponsored surveillance system.
Edit: on mobile so fixed a bunch of typos
Edit 2: On turning over data. In the discovery phase of litigation, they’re legally obligated to cull the request for information to what is relevant and in-scope. In my above example, the courts want the IP address and other identifiers of the dipshit that called for the assassination of a public figure. You’d only have to turn over the data for that one person, NOT everyone on your server. Just to put the facts out there.
gary web sh()t himself in the hed 2 times
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you are not safe posting here either
That is what I said
We know. We exist out of spite.
Life is not safe. It’s pretty relatively safe, as compared to living under a lean-to in the woods with bears and disease carrying insects and such, and even that’s safer than people make it out to be. However, there are “dangerous things” out there, both in the woods and in the streets and in the organized crime / government. Are you more likely to die of a car crash, or a malicious action of some organized group, or a car crash arranged by some organized group? It’s really hard to be sure, but if the available information is anything close to accurate, you’re better off worrying about a car crash than a meteorite strike, or shark bite, or bad people targeting you.
harder to make a international site comply though
Isn’t Reddit owned by China? WTF is Trump going to do?
Reddit is owned by Vanguard, Blackrock, JP Morgan, etc
You’d really think they could afford hiring some moderators.
Reddit is headquartered in San Francisco
From what I’ve been hearing that hasn’t been working anymore.
Can you do that for a banned account?
yeah just wait 10 years
If you wait long enough they’ll unban your account. I lost my 10 year old account a few months before the API debacle over referencing piracy in /r/movies and then inadvertently commenting there on an alt account, and just discovered that it was completely restored a few months ago.
Good to know, since I was shadow-banned for “circumventing a ban” even though my account wasn’t banned to begin with. (No, I didn’t have any alt accounts)
That’s exactly what mine was for. I think it was around 2 years later that it was restored.
Nope
I heard the heavier ones love it when you call them ICEburgs
Why is it important to make a fat joke about Nazis? Did you run out of things to make fun of them for being Nazis?
Seriously y’all, for all the people on this site who fancy themselves as “leftists” or “progressive,” y’all use eugenicist talking points fucking costantly. You gotta stop making fun of Nazis for shit that has nothing to do with them being Nazis. If your only way to make fun of these people is to target other groups, I’m not sure what you hate about them besides the aesthetics.
Because calling them Nazis doesn’t affect them - they’re proud of it. I don’t particularly care about being ACCURATE with those pieces of trash, and my attempts to do so would only be taken by them as a sign of weakness. It’s about getting to them psychologically and showing them I don’t respect them in a language they can understand. I get that the language is offensive to people who are not them as well, but it’s like a gun - it’s not just about the weapon, it’s about who you point it at. If it gets to Nazi bastards, I’m going to use it.
Oh awesome, could you explain how making fun of fat people constitutes psychological warfare against Nazis? It’s not like a gun, because a gun is a fucking inanimate object, and society and culture are not.
When you say that fatness is something that is akin to the same level of moral depravity as subscribing to genocidal politics, you are reproducing fascist constructions of the ideal human body and the relationship between physical deformity and social degradation. Liberals have used ageism, ableism, queerohobia and transphobia, racism, and yes, fatphobia to make fun of Nazis because most of them have no idea what is wrong about fascism besides the distastefulness of their tactics. It’s not about the language being “offensive,” it’s about anti-fascism.
You wanna be a fascist or not?
“Liberals have used ageism, ableism, queerohobia and transphobia, racism, and yes, fatphobia” One of these things is not like the others. One of these things doesn’t belong. You’re up in arms about the one thing a person can help. Fatness is curable. It can be done without drugs even.
I don’t particularly care for fat shaming myself. I’m classified as obese and struggle with compulsive eating the same as anyone, but you’ll never see me endorse a fat pride parade the same as a gay pride parade. Being fat is physically and mentally unhealthy and should not be promoted. Being body positive is good, being fat positive is not.
But we could probably all agree that it’s okay to shame ICE for being stupid evil assholes.
I also don’t really care about offending people, but claiming that they are conflating fatness with being a Nazi is ludicrous.
Them being fat isn’t worse than them being a Nazi, you braindead, victimhood-seeking pillouck. It is just offensive to say to them and makes them sad. Trying to police every word that people say is also highly fascist.
You wanna be a fascist or not?
You really are trying to twist what language means. We use words to be understood and you seem intent on mischaracterizing and misattributing the meaning of words when it suits you. Should we restrain from calling them pedophiles too? I mean surly there are some pedophiles out there who would be offended at being linking to Nazis. It BESMIRCHES the good name of pedophiles.
Please, good sir, tell me what insults I can hurl at the people MURDERING AND ABUSING PEOPLE that they actually care about? Shall I dig back a hundred years to find something no one else finds offensive? And they will?
