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Uuh what’s a training bra ?
It’s a bra for preteens without boobs to get used to wearing a bra. Although I’m sure they’re a thing partially due to peer pressure (not wanting to seem less developed than the other girls).
I’m convinced, but as a dude, how do I join them?
hold stillam cis, but fuck it, let’s go.
A callback to the classic comic “Strawman Feminists”: http://www.harkavagrant.com/index.php?id=341
Brah…!
IKR! Im so sick of constantly seeing man hating feiminists in the training bra area of department stores!
Around here I only see training feminists in the man bra department stores.
where I live they’re feminizing departments in the bra-man trains!
I don’t know how many Hark, A Vagrant strips featured the Straw Feminists, but here’s their introduction, I believe.
Edit: The dangerous time-suck rabbit-hole-o-matic website, TVTropes, has a page for “Straw Feminist,” which links to Hark, A Vagrant.
I’m listening…
Hm, I don’t know that I like dictating what kind of underwear others should wear, but I do approve of their stance on blowing up Earth
But I don’t approve of smoking inside shops >:(
Whatever, they’re gonna blow it up later. From the moon.
I reckon their cigarette butt is going to ignite a gas leak which happens to be leaking from the earth’s core. KABLAMMO!
I don’t care, kill us all, have wars over what is left, and then humanity goes extinct.
The happiest outcome.
which part is the joke? I’m honestly missing the humor in this one, like I get it might be funny because the feminists want her to blow up the world maybe?
Petaaaaaahhh explain the joke?
Edit: is the joke the training portion? Like they are training her?
The joke is that it’s ‘Straw feminist’ as the title, as in ‘straw man fallacy’. The portrayal of the moon-dwelling earth-destroying feminist is the hyperbolic parody of straw man arguments against feminism.
dont forget the pearl clutching “but think of the children!” implication that they desperately want to fill specifically your daughters’ heads with all of the above.
Yeah I don’t understand that either, but thank you for the explanation!
Ok so further simplifying, Straw man fallacy is per wikipedia, the refuting of an argument by refuting a different argument that is not part of the original context, and failing to recognize the distinction.
So here, people refute feminists by using the stawman of them wanting to blow up the earth / being extremists? I feel like something has to come back to training bras, like societal expectations of underwear for women is the argument, but then the straw man is radical feminism?
Goddamn I really am not getting the humor in this one. I’m not trying to be obtuse or overly PC, I really enjoy comics and just want to understand the humor because it seems really abstract to me.
It’s making fun of people getting all worked up about their (extreme) idea of feminists. Usually, they’ll also picture these straw feminists as not wearing bras, so presumably they’re lurking at the training bra section to prey on young children about to get their first bra.
Ok this makes sense and is the direction I was heading in at the end there (glad I wasn’t just blindly groping), thank you!!
People tend to overdemonize feminists and what feminism stands for. This comic is making fun of that by portraying an absurdist scenario where a perfectly normal feminine practice: getting a training bra, is beset by moon-dwelling feminists who seek to destroy the earth.
Instead of, well, recognizing and demanding equality. The original straw man antifeminists make is to deviate from the idea that feminism is about equality. That’s probably the critical foundation this comic needs to make sense as that’s what it is poking fun at.
totally agree and this experience does make sense to me, people paint feminists very broadly and stupidly - personal anecdote I remember being blown away in college that being a feminist could simply mean supporting the right for women to vote, have equal pay, ect.
I had heard terms like “feminazi” growing up, so the picture in my mind was more similar to the comic than I think I initially realized when reading it.
It’s a play on words. The Straw Man fallacy is where someone invents a fake target to it make it easier to attack rhetorically. Plenty of rightists use straw man arguments to attack the concept of feminism, misrepresenting it to make it easier to vilify. The comic depicts two characters that are the personification of right-wing straw man arguments about feminism, but elevated to a comical level of absurdity. In this case “feminists are recruiting children to help destroy the planet.”
this hits it for me, thank you, I came to the understanding above that I had been painted this exact picture when I was younger, but learned better in college.
I think I was a bit blind to the fact that some people still paint the absurd picture of feminists shown above, I forget how far we still have to go as a species sometimes.
This would be funnier if comics that actually try to say things like that weren’t being posted on lemmy too
Example?
The older post right after this one is one of those, indirectly.
I still don’t know which one you mean
Oh you know, that one … the one that is there that supports their take.
That one.
Are you just too lazy to go on the community and scroll down one post? Or just arguing in bad faith?
um…do you think everybody uses the same sort? Not to mention blocklists, federation quirks, client-side filter features, etc…
Yeah I guess I am
If you don’t then that’s worrying, but fine.
Just look at all the recent comics posted by FelixCress
The thing you didn’t understand is that people who don’t understand what you meant are trying to find the referenced comic in order to understand it. They don’t know what they are looking for and lemmy is pretty weird when it comes to searching for users apparently.
Now i actually knew your guide required you to sort by “new” and already had an idea which comic you meant.
You are correct in what you initially said but next time i recommend placing a link rather then giving people a map and then get defensive when people are getting lost.
For every else:
THEY MEANT THIS COMIC:
Oh yeah, fuck that dude
You’re assuming we all know and see what you see and that anyone asking is asking in bad faith.
I wager that mindset causes more arguments then it protects you from.
You’re aware that you can copy the link and put it in a comment, right?
