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    “These users are already familiar with Reddit and we’ve seen that the experience is much better for them in the app. The app offers a more personalized experience and users can more easily find communities that match their interests.”

    Lmao. The personalization is exactly what I don’t want, so fuck off. Also, it’s pretty easy to circumvent. I’m sure there’s multiple ways, but I just go to old reddit.

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    Next, they will stop allowing to register with random email without confirmation

    Edit: jut found out they already did it lol. Then next step will be to require phone number for all new accounts

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      I haven’t been able to post to reddit in years now, because I refuse to browse it without a VPN, and while it still lets me in, any account that I make immediately gets shadowbanned as soon as I make a post or a comment.

      I can’t tell if it’s because their bot filter is just terribly implemented, or because they don’t want me on their platform if I don’t surrender my public IP address.

      I’m pretty sure they just use a “how many different accounts under the same public IP” type of logic, because even if I create an account on a 4G network (no VPN) and post, this happens. Cellular networks often use double NAT (unique internal/carrier IP, shared public IP) to avoid allocating a public IP to each mobile device.

      I’ve given up a long time ago. My only exposure to reddit now is when a search results page links me to a post. The most helpful stuff is usually from a decade ago or earlier.

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    I’m glad the fediverse exists. People really ought to move on from Reddit and big tech in general … Where possible.

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    I figured out that it always works for me if I only ever visit the site with private browsing, clearing everything on exit.

    But seriously, if they cut me off, I’m just not going. It’s barely worth it as it is.

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      I keep seeing people saying that Reddit will be dead when this or that happens. I’ve seen a handful of those things come to pass already and reddit it doing just fine.

      Most people don’t care. They will continue using it. It will survive.

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        Reddit is doing fine and Reddit is fine are two different things.

        Most users complain consistently about it. That’s not a good sign for them.

        Their popular posts don’t get as many upvotes/comments as they used to. There’s definitely a decline in usage.

        It’s being overrun by bots.

        Tons of people are getting bot banned off the platform.

        It’s not like it’s going to just disappear anytime soon. But I’ve seen this many times before. It’s a dying platform. But it’ll be a slow death. And by death I mean it’ll just become irrelevant compared to other platforms. It’ll probably never actually go away. No one I know uses Facebook anymore. It used to be HUGE. We ALL used it. Now it’s a ghost town on my feed. I’ve messaged people and never got a response and run into them at a birthday or something months later and “Oh sorry, I don’t check it anymore”. It’s still there, but may as well not be. That’s Reddit’s future.

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      Yup.

      I’m down to only using Old Reddit on desktop while I’m stuck at work on weekdays. No time for that shithole on weekends.

      If Old Reddit goes, that’ll be it for Reddit for me.

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      My theory is that they realize that a significant number of power users on the site are still using old.reddit.com, so they are keeping it going because getting rid of it would turn the website into a ghost town. They will continue to push their app and new website because they can push more advertising through it to the people that are just there to consume.

      • SirEDCaLot@lemmy.today
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        I have the same thought. I still use Reddit, 100% on Old Reddit and I think objectively you could say I contribute a lot in terms of comments and participation. If old Reddit goes away, I’m done.

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        I think you are vastly underestimating the amount of people that only interact with social media through apps in this day and age. Even on Reddit I would be surprised if the old design is more than a few percent of the user base.

        It honestly does raise the question of why they are still maintaining the old UI. It seems like it would be an annoying legacy product to keep alive for a tiny part of the user-base. Perhaps it’s used as an API stability canary or something though.

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          Not at all. I’m comparing the vast majority that only consume to a small minority that actually interact and provide the content that others consume. Without that minority all that would be left is bot comments.

          Reddit pushes an ad and tracking infested app to make money off the consumers while doing the minimum to keep the content submitters on the site even if they make no money off them. I wouldn’t be surprised if old reddit was a couple percent of users but 25% of the comments that aren’t bots.

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        You think there are still redditors around?

        I think it’s just troll farms and bots. Every once in a while someone stumbles into the site and says something. THEN there is a whirlwind of answers/speculations/theories/lies.

        A.I is running the show. If I use a certain word or phrase I get filtered. If I say the exact same thing without those “catch phrases” then I see a few votes.

        I treat the site as a test site for trying language that gets PAST the trolls.

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          One thing I’ve noticed lurking on AITA is that there’s suddenly more people casually talking about being religious. Not like overtly preaching like you’d see in the past, but more people referencing going to church or doing things for religious reasons.

          It just seemed out of place and weird. Like the tone of that part of the internet suddenly changed. It’s still more liberal than conservative, though that conflict seems to be mostly just not present, perhaps in part because of their rule against political topics, though even when some slip through, it does seem to lean more liberal or even progressive than conservative. Like plenty of abortion support, no broad support for tribal or hierarchical judgements. But it suddenly seems more religious. Christian, specifically.

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            While church attendance is NOW declining rapidly?

            I suspect a Christian troll farm at work here. They NEED to indoctrinate at an early age to survive.

            They can’t use FACTS, their bible doesn’t have any good ones.

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          Of course there are redditors around; I’m another one of them. We frequent the cool subs like the very human /r/FreeGameFindings and ignore the rest of the noise. Milk Reddit for the best of what it has to offer and dismiss the rest. I see nothing wrong with this approach for as long as Lemmy is still budding, relatively speaking.

        • JayGray91🐉🍕@piefed.social
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          I haven’t checked how big the ones that I still frequent there (like /r/manybaggers and /r/onebag) but they do still have organic real people posts. Anything news, tech, or politics, anything of that size, I just abandon any hope they’re not troll infested and LLM bots. Not to mention meme subs and themed artwork subs. Just full of vote farming bots. I need the art source, you dinguses!

          On the bright side, /r/sbcgaming have a comms here and can also tie into retrogaming

          As well as flashlights.

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          You think there are still redditors around?

          I think it’s just troll farms and bots. Every once in a while someone stumbles into the site and says something. THEN there is a whirlwind of answers/speculations/theories/lies.

          I guess it depends on where you look. All the subs I’ve been visiting where people actually hang out, rather than just a handful of karma farmers spamming, are still flourishing*, so I never fully switched to Lemmy, but use both 🤷 Reddit subs have a magnitude or two more people, so imho they’re better for news, memes and technical advice, while for the past couple years Lemmy feels better for insightful conversations.

          * my main subs are for specific games and apps, a few countries/regions, and r/BestofRedditorUpdates, so ymmv

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          Lemmy world does the same thing, but to a lesser extent. Since they have so much of the users on the fediverse, them controlling their front page really controls the votes and who sees what.

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            How would that work?

            We are all on different instances. With different algorithms, technology, and differing filters. The code doesnt support what your saying.

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              If an instance has the most people and blocks those people from seeing your post, delays it from posting, or downgrades it as a source, it could easily be done. They have control over their own instance.

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                Can you elaborate? Arent blocks public via the admin logs in lemmy? In addition that info can be pulled from the api from any instance/fediverse protocol.

                I can reproduce of need be since i have my own lemmy and piefed instance and have over 20 years of software development experience.

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                  This called it shadow banning on reddit, but I think of it more as shadow curating. I explain it a little more in other comments itt. Reddit does the curating as well.

                  IMO, you could do this live pretty easily. When I first started posting, the trolls would complain that I wasn’t consistently online, lol.

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                I dont understand. Can you point to where in the code it has this? The algorithm/stack is open to anyone.

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                  You can read the code? I can’t. It wouldn’t even have to be a permanent code. It cold work for say an hour, take the post out of the running for the front page, and then disappear. The effects would be the same.

                  I know this is happening, I have no idea how.

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        Old reddit still has screens and moderation tools that haven’t been rebuilt. It’s kept on life support for mods right now.

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        from what I heard and saw from some mods (who can see the statistics on the old.reddit usage), it’s less than 10%, sadly.

        the vast majority is using the shitty new design

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          Or the app exclusively, and probably aren’t aware of the web interface at all.

          Reddit went full Facebook by making it more accessible to the general public, with the predictable Eternal September results.

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        they realize that a significant number of power users on the site are still using old.reddit.com

        Wonder how they feel about people like me, who use a third party Reddit app on Android? They get no ad revenue from me, and I don’t contribute either.

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          how are you still doing that, I thought they all shut down like three years ago with the whole API debacle

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            Hydra works really well on iOS. It’s not read only, full usage.

            And it behaves and looks really similar to the Lemmy client I use (Voyager). Unsure if they share some of the codebase or if they both just try to imitate Apollo.

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            On android you can using redreader for free. I’m still using it for anonim read only reddit

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            The main change was them charging for the API so you can simply make a developer API key for free and patch it into apps. I’m using Boost and it still works well.

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            Reddit blocked third party apps but they didn’t block personal-use API access. With the help of some apk-editing tools that I won’t mention here, you could import your own API key into a third party apps and continue using it fully (including posting and commenting). I’m using Reddit Sync still.

            My API key still works, but my understanding is Reddit recently blocked the generation of new keys. So at some point my key will probably die too. At that point, that’s the end of Reddit for me.

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            I think there are still “read-only” clients. I haven’t looked in awhile, but I know there were some available via F-Droid (alternative app store) long after the API was cut off. I assume they use standard web scraping for grabbing content.

            Also, I’m not sure if it still works, but I think you can still use open source clients that rely on the API, you just have to compile/build them yourself using your account’s own personal API key.

            I haven’t looked into either of these in a while and definitely not an expert on the topic, but I’m sure if you’re interested there’s enough info out there to find a solution that works for you.

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            AFAIK there are a few, “read only” apps. iOS has RDX, not sure about Android.

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              I use stealth on android. It’s limited. Gifs show as links. No where near as good as sync used to be. But still better than the website if I end up there via a google search.

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        I’m not entirely sure what this does? It automatically creates a copy of a post to lemmy when you post on reddit?

        I wonder if a plugin that does the opposite would be helpful? Something that automatically creates a link post on the relevant reddit community when you post on lemmy.

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      I found the Artemis app and it’s surprisingly close to Apollo and Voyager with Liquid Glass aesthetic and works just as well.

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      Not just of reddit but also for some reason Google (at least for me) often recommends <search term> reddit and ranks reddit posts quite highly, so this enshitifies google too.

      Google’s demise due to socialmedia walled gardens was kind of understandable, but their decision to lean into Reddit and make themselves extra vulnerable to the whims of a corporation they don’t own, is entirely in them.