• The Picard Maneuver@lemmy.worldOP
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    I’ve learned that cardio can work, but there’s also a lot of truth to that “you can’t outrun a bad diet” saying. Like you said, your body can subtly undermine your work by making you more hungry, and it can also cause you to be less active in between exercise without realizing it.

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      This is because people diet wrong. You can absolutely gorge yourself on vegetables and still easily run a calorie deficit. People instead try to just eat tiny amounts of calorie dense foods, and that’s what fails, because it leaves you hungry and tired.

      Also, taking massive doses of iron supplements (or dark greens) helps a lot.

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      Last year I cut out 95% of all junk food and snacking, started eating more lean protein (like chicken), and made sure to cut out ultra processed foods where I could (i.e. home-cooked meals vs frozen dinners), and without increasing exercise I lost 20 lbs in 2 months. Sometimes it really is the diet that holds you back.

      • LurkingLuddite@piefed.social
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        It’s always the diet. Even someone who burns an extra 4000 calories a day can eat themselves into obesity.

        That doesn’t mean someone has to starve to lose weight, just watch what they eat, like you did.

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        Yeah, most of the people I’ve spoken with about their weight issues have terrible portion control. Like they’ll just sit and eat an entire bag of chips while they watch TV for an hour. It’s crazy to me. My parents just got put on a diet to try to get their weight under control because they’re both pre-diabetic and the next day my mom went out to costco and loaded up on fruit for them to snack on instead of chips. Which I guess is better, but an entire shelf in their giant 2 door refrigerator is full of tubs of berries and shit, if they’re planning to eat proper portions of those as snacks half that shit will rot before they get through it. Maybe my mom just has brain rot from all the fad diets she’s been exposed to over the years but I don’t think the idea of just not eating snacks or counting calories even went through their heads.

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          It’s crazy to me how people can not eat a whole bag of chips. Like I am supposed to put half of the bag back into the cupboard? If I open a bar of chocolate, I eat the whole thing, every time. And a lot of people I know are similar. This is the reason why I never but this stuff, as the best defense tactic is to have nothing in the house.

          I am overall a healthy person and do a lot of exercising by the way, but I can’t control myself with chips. And I think that is not unnatural, as this stuff is made exactly the way that it makes you addicted af. Of course I feel like shit after I ate the whole bag, but I don’t know how to control myself.

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            Like I am supposed to put half of the bag back into the cupboard?

            Yeah. Even better, don’t take the bag of chips out for the snack, only take out a bowl or so of them and don’t just keep refilling the bowl, that’s the hard part. Not having your snack bag readily available means you have to expend effort to go get more, and that’s generally when I lean into my lazy habits. Because I have to go all the way downstairs and across the house to get more.

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            Like I am supposed to put half of the bag back into the cupboard?

            Yes? A serving of 15-20 chips is usually like 150 calories some are way worse than that. Dump a handful in a bowl and put the bag up. If you take the bag with you of course you’re going to mindlessly plow through it. How many times does someone need to do that before they think “wow, that’s not good for me, maybe I should consider a different tactic to consuming these things?”, that’s the crazy part to me that they don’t do anything to change their habits. You’re right though that just not buying it is the best option if that’s a problem for you as they are designed to be addictive.

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            Seriously, don’t eat snacks out of the package they come in. Put a small portion in a bowl or on a plate and put the main container up. It gets easier with practice.

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        That isn’t a surprise, diet makes a massively bigger difference than exercise, but the real goal needs to be sustainability.

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      My body isn’t subtle in the slightest.

      Any amount of work?

      We’re starving, we’re starving! Says my body, like the cats who have a still almost full bowl of food.

      Stupid meat husk.

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        Right? (I know it’s not the same) but come on look at all of this fat you can burn! You’re not hungry, you’re lazy, you know, like I want to be.