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    I complained to my mother that the new dentist hurt me. She said I was being over-dramatic. Months later, she went to him and told me that he hurt her. No acknowledgment that I’d complained of the same. Teenager, obv.

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    Never trust a medical profession that hasn’t changed their standard techniques since the Dark Ages. And it also explains why they didn’t join medical doctors in the AMA and created their own ADA with hookers, cocaine and blackjack.

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      Look, I hate them too, but they aren’t Bender. Don’t hold them to a standard that’s impossible.

      Omg, did it just take my >20y to associate Bender with drinking on a bender? I’m so stupid.

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      The dentist I use now is also a maxillofacial surgeon.
      She discovered that my previous dentist was completely ignoring issues that would have left me toothless, lose part of my jaw, and even kill me with meningitis.
      And the guy had made a TAC that clearly showed it all. Dude was laser-focused on getting just implants and more implants to rack those bucks, let tooth repair be damned.
      I was lucky that the infection was kept perfectly isolated for years in a granuloma, because my freakishly high pain threshold kept me from noticing it at all.
      I’m not going to a ‘dentist’ who just studied ‘dentistry’ ever again.

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    This reminds me of a lyric by good old John Prine…“We are living in the future. I’ll tell you how I know. I read it in the paper, 15 years ago”.

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    Dentistry has made quite a few leaps. When I was young fillings were metal. Now they are a putty that dries within seconds with uv light shine upon it.

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        I had the same for my last guard (to keep me from grinding teeth at night). The previous guard relied on a mold, which I swear loosened a filling that fell out a week or two later.

        The tech is pretty amazing. They still need a drill though.

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        Some are. My kid just got some in a few months ago, look just like what I had in the 90s

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          UV resin, basically, just super high resolution that makes it incredibly expensive (even the cheaper models used for quick check measurements by dentists cost $20k+ - that is, latest tech, brand new from manufacturer, before someone drops a link for a used unit from 2018 for 10 grand). But the sheer volume makes up for it, a single printer like that can be generating pure profit within a year.

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            Eh, I’m not sure about that. I have an Invisalign retainer and have been 3d printing for a few years now, and from the looks of it they just did a regular FDM printing of the teeth then vacuume-formed plastic over that. Having printed the same files myself (dentist was happy to give the scan to me), and seeing as the retainer has very visible layer lines on the inside (too thick for resin printing), that seems more likely.

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            Incredible, and thanks for the reply.

            I was thinking it had to be a resin printer. What I thought was curious was the potential for bacteria in the layer lines, I guess with this type of printer, whatever proprietary material they’re using (lol), and the proper sanitation methods, it’s probably not an issue.

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      Plastic filling with ceramic particles in my case. I honestly don’t know which tooth it’s in anymore

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    Orthopedic surgeon:

    *repeatedly pulls string attempting to start up a chainsaw*

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      My kid’s orthopedist had a saw that was a pizza cutter sized cutting wheel, and it stopped when it touched your skin. He demonstrated on his own hand before he started removing cast.

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        it stopped when it touched skin, or it didn’t cut the skin?

        the cast saws that I am familiar with have an oscillating motion that is small enough that skin just moves with the teeth instead of being cut by them. a saw that had sensors to know when it touched skin seems unlikely.

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          That sounds correct, I think he might have explained it that way but I was too cooked by watching him use a cast saw on his bare hand to retain.

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          a saw that had sensors to know when it touched skin seems unlikely

          I’ve never seen it in a healthcare setting, but that kind of safety mechanism is already a thing in larger saws - some pretty impressive demos on the web. Iirc it effectively destroys the machine if it goes off, but most of us would rather buy a new table saw than lose a few fingers. …and that was the tech years ago, may well have improved since I went down that rabbit hole.

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            Saw stop still owns the patent afaik and has even stopped other similar techs from taking hold because the patent is so stupid generic… Iirc Bosch is one such alt that got shit canned. Last I knew saw stop was pushing for legislation to require the tech… Because they own the market.

            (I am years out of date on this and going on memory… Pretty sure the legislation died)

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    While pulling teeth is still quite barbaric, replacing teeth uses quite a lot of modern technology. For example 3D scans and 3D printing are common tools in creating dentures these days

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      Methinks I’d prefer that bacterial treatment that helps regrow teeth. Or the one that triggers the third set. Or the others I’ve heard of over the past few decades, that would be a cheap (mere pennies) one-time treatment, that curiously somehow never made it to market. Rather than being hozed of my wealth to give someone a bullshit job. Don’t you just love the perverse incentives in this “economy”?

      Still… it’s very impressive, doing it the long way around, the hard way. And in our agnotologically abused state, oblivious to the suppressed cheap easy ways, it’s so very very impressive, we marvel at the skilled class, and bow before them, pleading in desperation for their blessing us with salvation, as they’re the one true god, of whatever it is they’ve anti-competitively cornered the market at.

      “Wheeeeee. I’m so glad we’re free, honey. What time’s American Gladiators on. Are we missing it?”… <- somehow that Bill Hicks bit sprang to mind. Like akin to the “keep repeating, we are free”, here we’re induced to “keep repeating, we’re in the future”.

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      My dentist does a 3d scan in the chair and has a mill onsite that generates crowns in 45 minutes.

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        My dentist made impression for two front crowns and sent away to have them made. Meanwhile he made two temporary crowns in-house and glued them in. They looked and felt exactly like the ones that arrived two months later. I dunno.

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          yeah, he’s not cheap, but it’s such a HUGE advantage to walk out done. One appt.

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    They can get a 3d image of a featus by ultra sound but for some reason prostate exam is still a finger up the butt 👉

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      Unlike in the movies, doctors usually aren’t trained in sonography. Sure they could figure out how to scan a prostate, but they aren’t gonna go out and buy a fancy 3d ultrasound just for men over 45, and they aren’t going to become, or hire, sonogram techs.

      And I’d rather take a finger in the butt than have to have another fucking appointment. No pun intended, but it’s one finger. Unless my doctor is Andre The Giant or E.T., I think I could handle it.

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      It’s because it’s right there and requires no special equipment to get the job done. I never really got why people freak out about a finger back there, you constantly pass fecal matter several times that thick through there. If they could fully check that a baby was ok safely with their finger they’d do it.

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        Because the fecal mater get out in a intended way, the finger is quite the opposite

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    I had a tooth extracted a couple of months ago, and even though it wasn’t my first rodeo (brush your teeth properly, kids), I was still amazed at how barbaric the process is. The dentist was only just short of standing on my chest so he could properly yank at it, all the while shards of exploded tooth were flying around the room.

    Fair play though, he did it quickly and cleanly.

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      shards of exploded tooth were flying around the room

      quickly and cleanly

      I…I think you and I have different definitions of “cleanly”. Also, please excuse me while I go and clean my teeth again!

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        Have you checked your wisdom teeth? If they’re not in order then they might need to be removed.

        Mine took more than an hour to remove. It had hooked ends so that made it difficult.

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      I had a fucked wisdom tooth out, and as he grabbed it with the pliers I heard it crunch and collapse on itself and the dentist went “oh…”

      Which isn’t a noise you want to hear from a dentist, but again he did the job.

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      Not as extreme, but one of my kids had to have a cavity filled. He struggles with some sensory issues, so I was staying close by to help keep him calm.

      Knowing what happens and seeing your kid’s tooth enamel getting drilled away are two… very different experiences. Like with you though, they were quick, clean, and precise!

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      My wife has had some bad luck with dentists.

      First was the wisdom teeth. Still to this day unsure of if it was a result of the extraction, but immediately after she developed an abscess on her tonsils.

      The abscess needed to be drained in the ER, it was so painful. And the draining was painful, too. Not like they got Novocaine there. And then she got her tonsils removed as a result.

      Then last time she had an extraction, the tooth shattered below the gum line. Dentist had her for like three hours getting all the chunks out. Her jaw was sore for like a week, not only from the extraction but also from holding that damn position for so long.

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      Shit man I’m glad I’m not a surgeon.

      Could you imagine having to take 3 or 4 trips to Home Depot while your patient is just lieing on the bed, passed out and split open?

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    And my mechanic is less pushy than any dentist I’ve ever visited. They always seem to pull up some image and point to it and say see that out of focus area? Your particular insurance covers that, so your teeth will fall out next week if we don’t address it right now, and youll never get laid again, you’ll fail out of school and get fired from your job and be homeless. Oh - wait. You’re insurance doesn’t cover that? Then they wipe the grease stain from the screen and say you’ll be just fine.

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      i have dental connections. what i understand is there are two different things to watch. there’s a treatment that might be able to get your own body to grow another (final) set of teeth. theoretically humans can grow 3 sets, we stop at the second. that’s in the works, sounds pretty painful. the other treatment is something that can regrow dentin or enamel or i can’t remember it’s been a while, but the one they’d be excited about is enamel so it’s probably that? IIRC they both were coming out of South Korea, one in phase 1 trials and one still in animal trials.

      this is me trying to remember off a conversation with my deceased dad’s friend a couple months ago, so take it with a heaping heap of heaps of salt. my memory ain’t all that great anymore.