• 1984@lemmy.today
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    5 hours ago

    I guess I would buy this if I was a huge gamer, but I game on my pc and it’s fine.

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    Get me a piece of paper and a pencil. We can play hangman or X’s and O’s, and not have to shell out hugely gross amounts of our hard earned cash. Everyone should start carrying a paperback novel and a deck of cards in their back pocket again. How about now tech bros? Can you cheat us now? Soon you will not be able to afford all of that hair product you use.

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    11 hours ago

    The ceo of valve has more money than sam altman, valve is a for profit company, what makes you think they want to sell you something for cheap?

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      10 hours ago

      the argument isn’t that steam would sell at a loss if it wasn’t for ai, it’s that price is close to market parity, when we know the original price was projected to be $750

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          7 hours ago

          The point is that in Europe sticker price always includes tax, you pay the exact amount there, while reputedly in the US it does not work that way.

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            Yeah and also considering they gotta ship it from the US to the Netherlands warehouse which prolly isn’t free either

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              Is it made in the US though? It seems kinda silly to ship the parts from predominantly China to the US back to Europe.

              Especially since IIRC the US PC market is smaller that that of Europe.

              And also, tariffs.

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      Even a 6600XT is so overkill I have a RX 580 with a DDR3-era processor, and most games run at over 60 FPS, hell Elite Dangerous run fine at 80-85 FPS

      I really struggle to understand why that much compute is needed for gaming It just comes as wasteful for me

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        I blame the competitive gamers that barely understand what theyre doing. I seen guys complaining about their frame rates dropping below 120 on a 2k display.

        Maybe, something higher than 120 provides an advantage to players with extreme reactive skills in the most intense close quarter first-person combat, but there otherwise wouldnt be a reason to sustain anything above 120. I dont think there are any monitors that refresh above 120.

        Imagine bottlenecking 200+ frames a second, at 2k resolution, through a 60 hertz monitor. What a waste of gpu.

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          I dont think there are any monitors that refresh above 120.

          I’m sorry what are you talking about? I have a 240Hz monitor and you can easily buy one with over 500Hz. And 240 feels so much smoother than 120, even in story heavy games.

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        Try something AAA made in this decade, on a monitor made in this decade. Valve also isn’t marketing this as a retro console.

        They said 60fps at 4k.

        They lied.

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    I wanna know what’s happening with all those finished wafers they bought.

    If they aren’t being made into memory modules I think someone should go to jail.

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        Xbox Elite series 2 controllers are $200, Switch 2 joycons are $100 for a pair, a base PS5 controller is $60-75, 3rd party wired controllers are like $20-30.

        $80 for a controller is about average.

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          Just for some comparison, wireless Xbox 360 controllers sold in 2006 for US $50, PS3 controllers slightly more, and Wiimotes as low as US $40 (without nunchuck/motionplus).

          PS4 controllers were $60, Xbox One controllers were slightly less, and Switch pro controllers were $50 (more comparable than comparing to Joycons).

          Now Dualsense controllers for PS5 are $75, Xbox Series controllers are $65, and Switch 2 pro controllers are $90(!!).

          US $1 in 2006 is the equivalent of $1.60 today when adjusted for inflation, so that $50 Xbox 360 controller at launch would come to $80 now. Not that those figures necessarily translate into buying power, but it does seem that (Nintendo aside), the price is keeping pace or just shy of inflation.

          Nintendo’s sharp jump from the cheapest to most expensive option is likely factoring in inflation with anticipated tariff adjustments during the console’s launch…which they’ll never walk back even with the scary numbers gone.

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        Considering the competition starts at $60 and doesn’t have touchpads, back buttons or a dedicated wireless receiver, I’d say it’s pretty reasonable.

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        Depends on what you compare it to I’d say. From reviews the quality is really high, and if you would use them a lot the trackpads might already be worth it compared to conventional controllers. But if you just want a standard controller, a PS5 controller has pretty much all other features and also has a very good build quality. (xbox controllers don’t have gyro which is stupid in this day and age) and also brands like 8bitdo have caught up a ton in terms of build quality and features and offer great cheaper options. So imo it really comes down to the trackpads and perfect steam integration.

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        Regardless, I still have ps2 controllers from 18-25 years ago that i can use for every non-keyboard game on my steam. Humblebrag.

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        Ah in OP’s original post they linked a dollar version of the image so i was looking at that when inkade the comment

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      16 GB is perfectly usable even for heavy games, it’s still more than what the PS5 has (which is 16GB but shared with the GPU)

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      I switched my 32 GB desktop from Windows to Linux and, honestly, 32 GB is probably a waste for most users. I’m using 7/32 GB’s and I’m actively:

      • Browsing the web (Firefox with 7 tabs open)
      • Messaging (Signal messenger desktop)
      • Editing an image (Gimp)
      • Editing a video (Kdenlive; and granted its a small project)
      • Email client running (Thunderbird)
      • Word processor (LibreOffice Writer, just noticed I have it running for no reason)
      • Listening to music (Gelly)
      • Bitwarden running in the background
      • VPN client
      • qBittorent with 3 active… Linux ISO’s

      I just launched Steam and RAM went up to 8 GB’s, which is a fraction of what Windows uses while doing nothing. I can only see myself needing the extra overhead when running VM’s which I don’t see a lot of people wanting to do on a device aimed at gaming.

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        This is similar to what I’ve experienced too but don’t be surprised if someone tells you that it’s impossible for windows to use less ram than Linux. There’s one of those people in every thread.

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      I graduated highschool in 2004, so I’d say roughly around 2002 I was marveling at the massive 1GB hard drive my friend got lol

      I think 16GB of ram would have blown our minds.

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        Gonna guess you mean USB drive, and not HDD.

        In 2004, 128 and 256 GB HDDs were pretty standard, and if you had some extra budget to throw at a PC, you could get a 512GB.

        My budget laptop in 2004 had a 128GB HDD, 256MB RAM (quickly upgraded to 768MB) and like a 1ghz dual core processor.

        I remember having a 512MB usb stick and thinking that I would never have to delete anything off it, because I would never have enough word docs or projects at school to fill it up all the way.

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        I bought a 16Gb laptop in 2012, which is out of the noughties, but still 14 fucking years ago.

        14 years before that I had 32Mb; a 500* multiplier.

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        Huh, I got a PC in 1997 with a 2GB hard drive. It didn’t take long (a year or so) for that to start feeling small compared to others my friend had. He got an 8 GB HD in probably 1998 and a 20 GB shortly after. It was ram I remember being so small. That PC I mentioned from 97 had 24 MB RAM which was good in 1997. It took a couple of years for anyone I knew to exceed 64 MB.