• Herbal Gamer@sh.itjust.works
    3·
    2 小时前

    So theres this american dude on youtube who cycles through China and the way he connects to locals is usually by offering cigarettes. Very fun videos; “Bicycling trough China, one cigarette at a time” was the first I think I saw.

  • Jo Miran@lemmy.ml
    68·
    5 小时前

    The Chinese aren’t ahead of the curb here, they are significantly behind. Flavored cigs got banned in most countries many years ago because they did too good a job. I expect the same thing will happen in China soon.

    • Kirp123@lemmy.world
      43·
      4 小时前

      One of the reasons they were banned was also because it made them more attractive to children and teenagers. That’s also one of the reasons a lot of places don’t allow fancy designs on cigarette packs and it forces them to show those gruesome pictures of throat cancer and stuff.

      • village604@adultswim.fanEnglish
        4·
        1 小时前

        It’s a bullshit justification. Adults like flavors other than plain tobacco and menthol.

        If it was really about protecting children, they’d ban flavored alcohol too.

        • chaogomu@lemmy.worldEnglish
          2·
          35 分钟前

          It’s not just about protecting children, it’s about protecting everyone.

          Nicotine is wildly addictive. Full stop. It and a host of other chemicals also cause a wide range of health issues that greatly strain the medical system, and put strains on healthcare budgets.

          Since banning the product outright will likely not work, due to the aforementioned addictiveness, sensible countries have adopted a slightly different approach of making the cancer sticks as unappealing as possible, both to keep kids from starting and to help people already addicted quit.

          • kungen@feddit.nu
            1·
            25 分钟前

            host of other chemicals also cause a wide range of health issues

            It’s mostly the tobacco causing health issues, not the wonderfully addictive nicotine. But yeah, it’s a good thing that flavored cigarettes are banned.

            Though it seems like big tobacco found a loophole on the first day, as you can still get menthol cigarettes in EU… it’s just not as strongly minted as it was prior to the ban.

    • MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz
      7·
      3 小时前

      Except cigarettes are a state-run monopoly over there.

      The main reason things are going so slowly is that they can’t bring themselves to stop making so much money.

      The same institution that’s supposed to promote the facts about the health-risks of smoking is the one making stupid amounts of money making and selling it.

      If they ever stop, it’ll be because they transition to other nicotine products, are shift to exporting the product to developing countries (which they already are).

    • Little1Lost@gehirneimer.de
      16·
      4 小时前

      the tabacco lobby there (state owned, makes basically the same amount of money the chinese military spends) banned flavored vapes so the citizen take cigarettes instead

        • Little1Lost@gehirneimer.de
          4·
          3 小时前

          about 40% of chinese people smoke so its definetly something where state & tabacco propaganda succeeded. About korea: i dont know, i only saw the documentary about the chinese mega company

    • frog@feddit.uk
      20·
      5 小时前

      It is a good thing. I hate cigarettes and this post made me curious what other flavors China has.

    • webghost0101@sopuli.xyz
      12·
      5 小时前

      I remember rumours at school that the strawberry flavour could get you instant addicted.

      I doubt that is true, but I considered it a positive that people were worried about it.

      Then the modern vape cartridge got invented and just like that the youth is back to paying companies to inhale poison.

      • yermaw@sh.itjust.works
        6·
        4 小时前

        They were kinda right. Any cigarette is pretty much instant addicted if you smoke it all. The flavour just ensures youre more likely to do it. A lot of people take one or two puffs, cough their lungs out and say “sweet jesus thats fucking gross get that away from me”. The ones who make it the full smoke usually are in for life.

    • Ioughttamow@fedia.io
      6·
      5 小时前

      Yeah, I started with clove cigarettes. Wish I had never started, but at least I’m well and truly done with smoking

  • NathanRanch@lemmy.zip
    6·
    4 小时前

    I don’t like smoking. I think I ought to be free to decide that for myself. I can’t, or by proxy, make that determination for anyone else - even though I don’t think they should be smoking if they choose to.

    If it didn’t make so much money, kids wouldn’t be vaping. It’s an integral part of the American performance that, “nothing we can do about it”, is just what everone sees, and therefore thinks. We could prosecute parents for letting their kids have them, prosecute the gas stations for peddling it, prosecute the companies making them cheap and disposable. All of that would turn off the faucet on a billion dollar industry though, so it becomes part of our performance in one way or another. We have fundamentally bet that our world is a better place with smoking children in it, than without. That is what Capitalism does, that is how it does it. That is why it needs to be controlled like a rabid dog on a leash.

    • village604@adultswim.fanEnglish
      1·
      1 小时前

      The FDA is the reason sketchy Chinese disposables flooded the market. They killed the industry here to protect tobacco tax revenue.

      Before that, there were manufacturers using ISO certified cleanrooms to produce eliquid who voluntarily submitted to 3rd party audits. They all closed doors because the FDA forced them to submit every SKU to the PMTA process, which costs $250k-2m per SKU.

      That means that for one eliquid flavor, they’d need to submit a separate PMTA request for every nicotine strength and base ratio, which could end up costing tens of millions for nothing if the PMTA was denied.

    • QuinnyCoded@sh.itjust.worksOP
      3·
      3 小时前

      I HATE that THC disposables are legal. I’ve had 2 of them and keep them in a little jar in case they ever randomly choose to catch fire

      also not to mention how horrible they are for you. I only used them when I was a minor and couldn’t get weed by myself. (admittedly I am the issue 😅)

      There’s not enough education that you can enjoy weed without risking lung cancer by using a dry herb vaporizer and keeping it at ~380°F (depends on the strain tho) and it doesn’t make you cough up a lung every time you take a blinker!! also flower is cheaper than carts too!! (though the device is a bit of an investment at $200).

      it’s fucking great and I’m tired of getting “I don’t care about my body” from ppl any time I recommend it because I love my friends and want them to understand what they’re actually doing!!!

      also it has a pocket bong attachment. Bitches love the pocket bong.

      edit: also I forgot to mention you can bake the burnt flower in brownies or something and get a BONUS high from the same flower. I don’t understand why normal bowls are used at all tbh, they’re so wasteful

      edit 2: also I only talk about weed and not nicotine because I am NOT responsible enough to expose myself to chemically addictive drugs