Full title: Microsoft’s distinguished engineer says “typing code is absolutely over,” and Windows 11 is already being built that way. Nadella previously said 20-30% code at MSFT is AI-coded, and Windows security updates now include AI-assisted fixes to fight AI-enabled threats.
Being a “distinguished” engineer has nothing to do with being susceptible to the LLM yes man machine.
These chat bots are spreading psychosis on a scale so massive the damage is gonna take years to undo.
It’s funny you think it’s going to be undone. We are not going back to a time where humans type code for any serious commercial product. As they said in the article:
Fowler isn’t saying developers will stop reading code, or that software engineering is done. His point is that manually typing code line by line, in an editor, is becoming the least interesting part of the job.
But there will be a point where very little code is written line by line by humans. Though I suppose most of it was already copy pasted anyway.
Adding on to the other persons reply,
The actual code has always been the least interesting part to me at least. That doest mean I’m going to replace it all by AI.
That’s a huge jump there too.
Though I suppose most of it was already copy pasted anyway.
Wtf kind of code are they taking about? Like first year “pomodoro tracker” projects? These days the only thing I really copy paste are Linux commands, and even then
When did I even say that? How did you even extrapolate that from what I said?
You jumped to a conclusion so wildly I have no idea how you even got there.
Well… yeah, you can see it in the dumpster fires they call updates.
I don’t think it’s the flex Stale Nutella thinks it is…
Stale Nutela is a greta pun!) Also, agree
Clicking the start menu now results in literally 20 seconds of nothing until the apps appear. Even typing “excel” does nothing for about the same time. It is hot garbage.
I keep seeing people say this. I haven’t seen any lag in the start menu. What are you running on? A 5400 rpm drive?
It’s much more responsive on my machine when I disable windows search indexer and superfetch (which I do anyway)
I have two windows 11 machines, both from work. The potent machine experiences this bug. The low-end Thinkpad shows the apps instantly.
No clue why they behave differently, but they do
Well I guess if you’re not experiencing lag, then we’re all good.
I don’t remember this many bad updates in a while…now it seems like every patch Tues that roles around has broken shit in it.
Lol is honestly all I have to say.
Hard agree with him now. I’m running multiple opus agents in parallel with occasional fable reviews and plans. I review and correct and guide but I could never come close to this level of real productivity without it.
The abstraction level has risen up to interfaces and architecture and I’m good at both.
I know some of these words.
Idk how people can type this shit out and not feel disgusting.
Productivity for what. You’ve outsourced your thinking to the gambling prompt machine. Yikes.
Doesn’t look like it. Outsourcing thinking is one thing: “hey, ai, implement this feature, no mistakes --> straight to production”, outsourcing writing code is another thing: “hey, ai, write such and such code --> review --> this is not needed, that should be done this way --> rinse and repeat, then testing, and only then production”
Edit: problem is, I have no sensible ground to believe enough people at microslop do the latter. Nor am I optimistic about this percentage in general, including people of other professions
they cant change fundametals - device working against me is not MY device.
which is why - doesnt matter if they rewrite everyting in rust, it wont sell.
people know nowadayssadly they don’t
anti ai is trending but that’ll go away with time
the actually caring about the underlying problems will be like the fight for privacy now
AI is like a band saw. It’s really easy to use it wrong and start missing fingers when you get cocky and move too fast.
Then you have people who know how to use it like Jimmy DiResta who will just freehand stuff on one and still has 10 fingers: https://youtu.be/gA4lpsEWM5k
From a statement like this you can’t tell which one it is. Usually the first.
Yeah like a band saw that builds a profile of every interaction on the internet to sell to advertisers and fascist governments. Use with care!!
Omg nope nope nope. His fingers are constantly right next to the saw
And still he made his career with doing stuff on a band saw in a New York basement pretty much 😅
Dude knows exactly what he’s doing.
Does anyone believe him? We know he would get fired if he said anything else.
No, absolutely not. Windows still has major bugs like launching desktop apps from a shortcut drops environment variables when the environment path exceeds 2048 bytes. If AI was as good as they claim, it would have found these bugs already.
It doesn’t matter if AI is as good as they claim. Right now, and every new moment, is the worst AI will ever be. Don’t be shortsighted and assume since it can’t currently do X it will never do X. 2GB of RAM was once a lot of RAM. At the time, we would have said what on earth would anyone ever need 32GB of RAM for.
Not to mention who knows how many bugs AI has already found and fixed in Microslops code. It’s already in the thousands, that’s for sure.
And before someone starts throwing insults for me “defending” AI, I am strictly talking about AI as a technology. I am not talking about what the mega corps are doing to create said AI. The legislature needs to be quick to stop these companies from destroying the planet trying to innovate AI the fastest. Despite that, I can still recognize AI as the innovation that it is. There are a lot of things AI does not belong in, but unfortunately writing code is one of the perfect use cases for AI.
