Same shit just different color.
Ladies and gentlemen! There is no need to fight, come to the white base assembly
Late reply, but beautiful!
This is unironically the case in the muslim world today. Different groups killing each other in the bloodiest ways over the most miniscule differences.
And this was different for Christianity, you think? Even today there is still violence though be it less than, say, a few hundred years ago. Basically people became leas religious and stopped accepting the bullshit religious hate and the violence that came with it
Ban all religions
It’s weird that you can’t see that the metaphor is for all religions.
Here’s a great one to make you think about Christianity’s version.
*New link, same joke https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANNX_XiuA78
Who is NickSawRickShaw and why is that a message link to him
you underestimate Shia/Sunni animosity.
The Shi’a Sunni sectarianism was helped (at least in Syria) by the US government.
https://wikileaks.org/plusd/cables/06DAMASCUS5399_a.html
it was a thing for centuries before that
Yup, which is extremely similar to Christians and their “European wars of religion” that had them slaughtering each other for hundreds of years, and more recently “the Troubles” until 1998.
Jews aren’t above it either, though their examples are more biblical and not nearly the same body count. The Samaritans and the schism that turned into Christianity come to mind.
The troubles definitely had religious overtones and justifications, but it was a war about colonial control and cultural repression. You’d be hard pressed to find a British soldier who was fighting to defend protestantism instead of “the empire” or the queen, and you’d be hard pressed to find an IRA member who cared more about Catholic dominance in Ireland than independence.
The wars of religion basically used religion as a cudgel in a fight to dominate Europe and over tensions between the power centers of the Vatican and European royal courts. Entirely political but with religious marketing and pageantry.
Even the Sunni/Shia conflict, most Sunnis and Shias around the world have no issue with each other. Most of the time there’s violence assigned to sectarianism, it’s just like Ireland and Europe, that sectarian divide is inflamed by bad actors instigating artificial tensions and then using them to justify political and economic conquest. ISIS wanted to get rich by snapping up all the oil fields in a largely lawless region. Iran wants regional political dominance and economic control over the straight of hormuz. Israel wants to control the entire Middle East apparently. All of them have religious overtones to the conflict but the religion isn’t the reason for the conflict.
The last real religious wars were the crusades. Europe stood to gain nothing but “God’s favor” by taking back the holy land, it was nothing but a burden to repeatedly invade and fund intermittently occupying. Going back further, Muhammad’s early Muslim conquests are another example of a true “religious war”.
Weren’t the crusades also just a Papal project to reduce the intensity of European wars by dumping excess military capacity into colonising the Middle East?
Partly. The first Crusade had a lot to do with the Seljuks winning at Manizkert, which left the Byzantines needing help from Western Europe to take back their lands. They also wanted to direct knights violence at a common enemy as you said, but from the soldiers and knights to the 4 princes to Peter the hermit and Pope Urban II, all of them truly believed they were religiously called to reclaim the holy land. It’s kind of the opposite of those modern conflicts, it was a religious war with political overtones. The balance of religion and politics as motivating factors is different for each crusade.
Similarly, you could make an argument that Muhammed was motivated in his early conquests by political and territorial ambition, but he and his followers truly believed they were following divine orders. There’s always a mix of the two in those conflicts and it’s a sliding scale.
I mean Hindus are also like this. The amount hatred and violence over being born into different casts is disgusting, though I’m not as familiar with it or other religions. I come from an islamic background
Caste isn’t formally used in India anymore, was abolished a while ago. Could be a cultural thing but that will fade with time
From what I’ve been told it’s still a pretty persistent cultural problem, but I’m not Indian, so take that with a grain of salt.
The Thirty Year War was quite a while ago but until fairly recently there was real animosity between Catholics and Protestants in Germany.
“Today”
Isn’t it the crusades as well?
Too true
They need to update their banners.
OMG, I saw a 3rd lady. If you take the old lady eye and the young lady nose together, you can see an anime cartoon girl with no mouth, looking straight to the left. The young lady collar and chin are also a collar and chin for the anime cartoon girl.
This take on it is especially weird to me because I initially saw the young face, but as soon as I saw the old one it became impossible to see the “ear” as anything but an eye.
I can still kinda see the young face but the ear doesn’t compute anymore. it feels wrong.
She’s waering an ear bud
That one is creepy!
What else am I supposed to see besides a lady with a hat?
Easier to show this way,
One view: young lady. We see her from the back, looking away from the “camera”, her left ear towards us, wearing a necklace
Other view: old lady. Instead of the left ear, the same point served as the eye, the necklace instead serving as the mouth
I know you’re not responsible for this:
But what old lady wears a frill around their chin?
Conclusion: The young lady is real, the old lady is the illusion.
And what is the shoulder part of her clothes doing in front of her? Either it’s the young woman or the old wears weird clothes or can twist her neck in a creepy way
In the old woman version you’re supposed to see it as a ruffled collar and her head as angled down, her chin kind of sitting on the collar
Ear is eye, Chin is nose, Necklace is mouth
It’s young lady with a hat facing away and an old lady with a hat facing to the side. Young lady’s ear is old lady’s eye, young lady’s nose is a mole-like bump on old lady’s nose, and so on. Never liked this one personally, the old lady is too much of a stretch for my brain to accept.
Yeah… I’m having a hard time making out the old lady
The young woman’s chin is the old woman’s nose
An old lady with a hat
Classic.
“Wait, wait… stop… STOP!”
“Now, who’s carrying the DUCK banner, and who’s carrying t’other?”
(insert Monty Python, please)
The guy in the lower side of the image is the one talking.
Fun fact: Allah means God.
Christians and Jewish people that pray in Arabic also pray to Allah. Western Christians really don’t like that.
Anyone else certain team Rabbit is in the foreground, with team duck the group further away?
I’ve been going back and forth and can’t find the rabbit symbolism
But what about the Great Green Arkleseizure
Pfft, losers. Old Woman God is better than both of these!
Man!
And I’m 37!
Well I can’t just call you “man”
