This is why I don’t use GNOME apps on a tiling WM. They always have an absurd amount of padding.
Common gnome L
Never got the Mac trend of not using your full screen. I get even less why Gnome copied it.
I’m not sure I understand… GTK can use full screens…
don’t you just fucking love
paddings!
(apologies to everyone whose device can’t render HTML entities)
maybe this works on more devices?
paddings!
i was going to ask what it was supposed to look like, then i opened a reply text and all i see is
Unfortunately, beyond the standard Markdown elements, there is zero feature parity between various front-ends and their Markdown renderers.
thx for the screenshot. mine does appear correctly! (i’m on jerboa)
the edits to charlie kirk’s face are so subtle these days, I can’t tell if this is the original or has been slightly modified.
It had been so long since I’d seen his real face that I didn’t know how it actually looked like anymore. I saw a clip of him a few days ago and thought ‘oh, they aren’t changing it that much’
I enjoy using Gnome and don’t really encounter any issues in my day to day use
(pls don’t kill me :))
I used to be a GNOME fanatic a couple of years ago. I switched to KDE after I got tired of the perpetually broken state of extensions.
I’m still thankful for all the effort and commitment the GNOME devs have invested over the years though! It’s an excellent desktop environment!
I don’t like using GNOME desktop or apps, but that’s not because its bad or less capable for my usage. I just don’t prefer their design philosophies. I’m grateful that it exists nonetheless. Linux desktop users are spoiled by how many great choices we have.
I don’t like Gnome, but I am glad it works for you. At the end of the day Gnome is better than Windows, Mac, and CDE.
CDE? First time hearing of this. Off to google. :)
It was an effort by multiple Unix vendors to create a common desktop environment: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_Desktop_Environment
Cool Desktop Environment 😎
Same for me!
True
“Modern” UI design be like: fat paddings everywhere
Don’t forget:
- Massive fucking fonts
- No visual separation between UI elements
- Hijacked scrolling
- Everything shoved into animated menus
- One (1) context action in the bottom right
MOAR WHITESPACE
Friends don’t let friends use GNOME
KDE4LYFE
Gnome does have a lot of strong points, I personally use both
Proper GTK4 adwaita apps don’t do that. They scale really well on mobiles to desktops.
Counterargument:
Admittedly this is a chat app, so there’s little to do. But still, it could stretch out a little bit more, maybe open the conversation info panel on the right
Sounds like a skills issue/design decision. Like the devs could do otherwise, they just didn’t. There’s nothing in GTK preventing this from working properly.
That looks like it’s just wrapping a WebView, is it not?
It looks like the CSS is just capping the container class width at 1440px, which has nothing to do with GTK
It’s Fractal, a matrix client, not a webview: https://gitlab.gnome.org/World/fractal
Fair - point still stands though - the application only has a single breakpoint defined at 600sp from a cursory glance, the lack of an ultra-wide specific layout is just because it hasn’t been implemented rather than a shortfall of GTK (though I’m not sure you would even want to make the message view wider, as it would impair readability)
What is your monitor size?
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You see the app’s font size is on par with the text size of your KDE panel. If gnome increased it, it would look totally out of place.
Also centering content is a valid design choice. Many websites do that on large/wide monitors. It improves readability. An example might be the design of pi-hole’s UI.
If readability is your issue on gnome on wide screen monitors you should also have issue on reading the time and date on the KDE panel as well.
2560x1080 which is 21:9 full hd. Most programs don’t really handle 21:9 displays, but many GTK apps are particularly bad at it
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I have no issue with the text size, I have an issue with enormous empty space around the text. It’s fine if it’s not perfect on a 21:9 display, but this wouldn’t look good even on a 16:9 display.
I’m also fine with the text not taking up the entire width, I aggre that it’s less readable. But I think the window (not the text, the window) could utilise the width better.
I say that the messages could be a little more spread out (i.e. my massages could be a little to the right while other’s a little to the left) and just like the left sidepanel appears and disappears when the window is too thin, more sidebars could appear to the right when the window is very wide.
These are all design choices though, not technical limitations of the gdk. I’m no expert in it though. Is it possible it’s missing the tools that make building those other design features easy?
AFAIK one of these are technical limitations, it’s just design choices. But in my experience, the design choices made following the gnome design guidelines tend to make apps with tiny faces
Do you want the text to span unlimited pixels?
No, I want it to utilize the space a little bit more, this wouldn’t look good even on a 16:9 display. Which is a shame because when windowed it looks really good.
Hm yeah. Most configurable GNOME application.
Even Gtk3 doesn’t have that issue when properly coded.
Damn, did you enlarge Charlie’s face for the meme? 😆
Time for a scrolling window manager
https://github.com/paperwm/PaperWM
We have thisI love it
Huh, this sort of issue is what made me leave KDE in the first place. Haven’t had such problems on gnome.
Do you have an example?
“Awesome UI”
I’m having this problem on Android rn. Coming from iOS, the content density is just super low, and no amount of tweaking display/font size will fix it 🙁
My screen is 50% padding now 🤷🏻♀️