I’m sorry, it’s just hard to relive this… without Jarnathan here.
Odysseus was a minor character in the first book before he became the main protagonist of the sequel. So yes, Odysseus was there before the Odyssey.
Ackshually, The Odyssey is said to have been written before The Iliad, making the latter the prequel of the former.
But since the name Odysseus was in use throughout Greece before the birth of Homer then yes indeed, Odysseus was there before The Odyssey.
So basically like Frasier
The Frasiery. Nice.
Exactly, those old episodes with Dr Crane working at Arkham Asylum really hit different once you know about his dark past
Odyssey roughly translates to “The story of Odysseus”, so yes, the name existed before Homer’s story. The semantic connection of odyssey and a long, dangerous and arduous journey came way after that.
but before the book no one was named Odysseus ever
Does that mean a story about Homer would be a Homey?
You could say it was an odyssey for odyssey to get that meaning
Odyssey no longer feels like a word. Damn you, semantic saturation!
“Shouldn’t we honor the gods before we go back home?” “Nah, trust me bro, I’ll be fine”
" ‘Waterloo’ means a complete and utter defeat. The French Emperor Napoleon lost everything at the Battle of Waterloo."
“Why did he go there, if the town had such an unlucky name?”
Philomena cunk core
At least he went straight there, unlike that other French guy always taking a roundabout way of getting somewhere. You know, Monsieur Detour.
I have to admit that that’s an expression I’ve only heard in US circles. As an expression in England, it, well, has no meaning. We kicked some guy’s arse and lost our best general.
Funnily I don’t think I’ve heard Waterloo used that often, in French.
Berezina is more commonly heard as a “complete and utter fuck up of epic proportions”. It’s the most memorable defeat in the entire retreat from Russia, which itself was a complete disaster.Waterloo was more of a swansong, since Napoléon had just come back to power after having abdicated, and he was hoping to prove he still had it. He did not.
I’m gonna write a new book call Travelling Adventurer, and my protagonist is gonna called Traveour Venture.
You jest but the main character of Snow Crash is literally called Hiro Protagonist
With sidekick Yours Truly.
Trevelor A. Deventure
But his middle name is also Adventure.
You mean The Venture Bros?
✌️Go! Team Venture! ✌️
Honestly, this sounds like a Lucas Arts adventure protagonist.
It’s Odysseyn’ time!
And then he Odyssed all over the place (for 10 years)
The movie adaptation made an oddyseon dollars, it’s more than the morbillion dollars Morbius made!
John Odyssey from the hit series Odyssey
Inventor of the Odyssey, just like Sir Thomas Ladder
I don’t understand memes like this that seem to be made by and for people who can’t use Google to find basic information
Clearly you haven’t used google recently…
Because the meme isn’t about the actual facts. It’s about the joke at the end. Which you clearly missed.
Really nothing on earth more Lemmy than people taking joke memes super seriously.
The joke only makes sense if you don’t have the actual facts or any desire to actually learn the
But I do have all the facts. And I find it amusing that someone wrote what appears to be the thoughts of, indeed, someone clueless about the whole thing.
Which, you would be surprised, happens quite often!
For instance my kids know Odysseus as Ulysse, in French. And so they have no idea that an “odyssée” is named after the king of Ithaca and his maritime adventures. It’s a mild joke about people knowing a word from one source and, seeing it appear somewhere else, assume a different relationship than what actually happened.Like if someone discovered that Kleenex is a brand and exclaimed “Wow! I can’t believe they can just trademark an everyday word like that!”
Or, “OMG, I can’t believe Microsoft invented words ? Bill Gates is such a genius, OMG! But what did we call them in the past?! 🤯”Go ahead try it.
Okay Journathan
You can totally laugh at something you already know tho.
No thank you I need my jokes fresh
Not really how jokes work, but ok
And I don’t understand why people call social media posts “memes”
There, we both must be fun at parties
Eh, that agree with you. Like all those stupid POV or “No one” macros. Words have no meaning anymore :/
The world and society as we know it is, and has always been, just vibes. Absolutely nothing is real.
Of course we can all google information. But it’s more fun to involve other people; especially if we find it funny.
Wait… Do you mean that social networks require interaction with other people?
Fun fact, you can ignore everybody else and play Single Player Lemmy, if you really want. Kinda empty, though.
