• DandomRude@lemmy.world
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    Although Grok’s manipulation is so blatantly obvious, I don’t believe that most people will come to realize that those who control LLMs will naturally use this power to pursue their interests.

    They will continue to use ChatGPT and so on uncritically and take everything at face value because it’s so nice and easy, overlooking or ignoring that their opinions, even their reality, are being manipulated by a few influential people.

    Other companies are more subtle about it, but from OpenAI to MS, Google, and Anthropic, all cloud models are specifically designed to control people’s opinions—they are not objective, but the majority of users do not question them as they should, and that is what makes them so dangerous.

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      It’s why I trust my random unauditable chinese matrix soup over my random unauditable american matrix soup frankly

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          naw, I mean more that the kind of people who uncritically would take everything a chatbot says a face value are probably better off being in chatGPTs little curated garden anyway. Cause people like that are going to immediately get grifted into whatever comes along first no matter what, and a lot of those are a lot more dangerous to the rest of us that a bot that won’t talk great replacement with you.

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            Ahh, thank you—I had misunderstood that, since Deepseek is (more or less) an open-source LLM from China that can also be used and fine-tuned on your own device using your own hardware.

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      There’s huge risk here but I don’t think most are designed to control people’s opinions. I think most are chasing the cheapest option and it’s expensive to have people upset about racist content so they try to train around that sometimes too much leading to black Nazi images etc.

      But yeah, it is a power that will get abused by more than just grok

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        I use various AI models and I repeatedly notice that certain information is withheld or misrepresented, even though it is freely available in abundance and is therefore part of the training data.

        I don’t think this is a coincidence, especially since the operators of all cloud LLMs are so business-minded.

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    “I’m a Grok guy,” said Vance. “I think it’s the best. It’s also the least woke!”

    What a fucking idiot. Really wants everyone to go back to sleep

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    Pee drinking skills

    She got competition.

    Context is quite cursed, not gonna link it, but you can find it if you want.

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    This headline makes it sound like someone has doubts about Musk’s pee drinking skills. That seems a little judgemental. Pretty sure Grok knows his master well.

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      Didn’t Grok also claim he’s fitter than LeBron and smarter than da Vinci? Perhaps being an olympic piss drinker has been the key to his success.

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        Yes, different article, also on Not The Onion.

        Didn’t read, but I suspect the LLM was prompted to reply in this way. Still funny, considering it is known that Musk tries to tweak it in his favor. (edit: this comment puts it better)

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        Of course he can’t, he’s too much of a loser to eat shit and die. He couldn’t manage it.

        Eat shit? Maybe. But eat shit and die? No sir. No way. I won’t believe it unless I see it for myself.

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      It was asked leading questions about embarrassing topics, but the over-the-top, fawning praise for Musk was baked into the responses without being specifically requested in the prompts.

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        I think this is the main story. I don’t think it’s new info, but it confirms the issue persists: this LLM is so heavily trained to fawn over Musk that it doesn’t exercise any application of context or attempt to find truth.

        Which is sad.

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    After the posts were deleted, Musk responded in a statement, saying, “Earlier today, Grok was unfortunately manipulated by adversarial prompting into saying absurdly positive things about me. For the record, I am a fat retard.”

    I have to hand it to him, that’s a pretty funny response.