A few years ago, Amazon chairman Jeff Bezos revealed how he thinks of local PC hardware as antiquated, ready to be replaced by cloud options from companies like AWS and Azure.

Bucha Bull to me.

  • TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com
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    What a fucking joke that would be on US American networks.

    We are ranked like 30th in the world for bandwidth. No fiber dropped to the curb but the billionaires. And shit slow 20th century wireless speeds with technical acumen that we see today in Verizon’s ongoing 8 hour outage.

    Bezos is so out of touch it is clown-like.

    They want a data center heavy world but have no fucking pipeline to get data in and out for the rest of us.

    What a human dildo.

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      Bezos is so out of touch it is stupid.

      Is he out of touch or has he just recognized that 50% of the economic activity is already from the top 10% of the population?

      I get the feeling the wealthy have just written off the bottom 90% of society and don’t actually give a flying fuck if anything works for us or not. He knows his core sales will go to people who do have fiber at their doorstep.

      Maybe we’re the ones out of touch thinking they plan on having a place for us in this world at all.

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        Even Ford, piece of utter feculence he was, understood that if you gave people money and time to spend it they’ll give it right back to you and everyone gets to come up together.

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          That was a PR stunt. Wages were being raised anyway, he just preempted what he knew was coming to make himself look good

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      Can we not pretend the problem is solely performance based? People keep doing this with generative AI and it keeps resulting in “oh shit, ghibli AI is so awesome”.

      Especially since… can you watch a twitch stream? Congrats, you can stream a desktop. Even back with Stadia it was very much viable to play games like AssCreed over streaming and have a very comparable experience to it being local. And stuff like Geforce Now actually work REALLY well.

      The issue shouldn’t be “can you make this perform well enough I want to use it”. It should be about ownership and the implication for… everything if all “personal computers” exist solely in a data center and all documents exist solely in The Cloud and so forth. Preservation of anything becomes nigh impossible and you suddenly have to pay a monthly fee to ever see your kid’s pictures again.

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        Having tried to play games over a gigabit connection, no. You really can’t. Latency is not something you can just handwaved away.

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          I don’t know what to say. Plenty of folk, myself included, have had no issues with the majority or games. And stuff like geforce now is quite successful

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        As someone who remotes home frequently, no, the experience is not quite right. Packet drop and latency cause lots of input errors and misclicks. Sometimes the local internet decides not to carry your packets, and sometimes even connecting over vpn doesn’t.

        You do not want a cloud desktop. You want a physical desktop and supplement with cloud services you can’t run locally.

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          Again, plenty of folk, self included, have no issues with streaming from a datacenter and geforce now is quite successful.

          Understand that the codecs make a huge difference. But the actual inputs are literally bytes per minute of data. MAYBE kilobytes if you are particularly good at Starcraft

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        People will surrender all ownership if you can provide more content more cheaper and conveniently, ownership is much lower on most people’s priority than convenience

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          And a big factor in trying to combat/delay that is to not frame it as “This doesn’t even work”. Because then it is literally one free trial away from being normalized for like 95% of the audience.

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      I had to sign up for DSL this week in Frankfurt, DE as my neighborhood didn’t have cable or fiber internet. Don’t think that we’re gonna be cloud-ready any time in the next 50 years. DSL. Frankfurt. Major city.

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        Satellite TV was much more popular compared to cable generally in European countries, so phone lines make up the bulk of wired networking in a lot of places, making DSL a pretty practical option without having to lay a whole network. I get the feeling in countries where cable is much more common, DSL is reserved for the last resort level of service, whereas in Europe many of the telecoms make sure to deploy the latest standards.

        I finally swapped to 1gbps fibre a year or two ago, but before that I was on about 250mbps with G.Fast DSL that honestly wasn’t bad at all. I believe the theoretical limits go much higher than that too

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          It’s DSL, so the speed depends on line length. To reliably get 250M you’re probably doing fibre to the footpath outside the building.

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            In the UK, where I believe VDSL and G.Fast both are achieved by putting the equipment in your local “green cabinet” which is the sub distribution between you and your local telephone exchange.

            My cabinet is about a 200m straight line from my house, so I was lucky enough that I always got pretty close to whatever speed the telco was selling me.

            My parents’ place is about 500m or so from theirs and I think they typically got about 70-80% of the “up to” rate on VDSL before they switched to fibre. It used to be more like 50% on regular ADSL/2/2+

            I think you have to be kinda rural before you’re much further than that from a green cabinet (which of course isn’t an insignificant number of people, but I believe per capita it’s not typical)

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              in my rural part of the u.s., the telco only sells dsl to a max of 10 mbps (and as slow as 384kbps if you’re at the end of the signal’s reach–at which point they also charge you more for the shit-tier speeds)… even if you’re literally next door to their central office… and even if they don’t have fiber down your street (which is their reasoning for the artificial limit–to push people towards fiber so they can pull the copper).

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      I feel like desktop as a service might work pretty well in a world where municipal fiber was commonplace but it’s the damnedest thing, the billionaire aligned politicians banned it in a bunch of places

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      That’s just a business probrem for them, they’ll fix it with Amazon Fibre™ or something like that