Uninstalled within seconds. I’m trialling Hyperion launcher now, which seems pretty crisp.

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    nova was good many years ago. iirc they got bought by an advertising company, and that was the day i deleted it.

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    And that license is now in the pile of licenses that used to be worth something, but are now junk.

    Little sad trumpet player eulogizing this mess.

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    I switched over to Lawnchair leaving Nova Launcher just last week. All the Lemmy articles about the new owners forced my hand. Perfect timing!

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      Moved in the last couple of days to Lawnchair. Very happy with it. You can set the icon size very small to fit everything on the HomeScreen.

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    WTF is going on? I’ve never seen an ad in my Nova Launcher. I’ll switch immediately if I ever see one. Did they add them to widgets? Does this only apply to the free version?

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      Can you elaborate a bit on what makes it hard to learn and what is so nice about it once you do? I didn’t see much for details on the linked page.

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        But of course buddahriffic! Let’s see how I can explain it, it is quite a different approach to other more classical launchers. There’s no option to put icons on the launcher, there’s no paging or anything. In fact when I found it out it couldn’t even have widgets. But the Dev has been hard at work it seems and has been making really nice changes. Now it allows to use widgets, so at least you got that going. But otherwise the screen remains rather empty and clean.

        Then the usage goes with gestures, but I’ve found it is less about gestures and just about straight lines of movement with your finger and how long. So when you start it it has nearly nothing set up to be used, you need to make a long click (I think it is like 3 seconds long and you see some UI feedback) to bring up the settings. In the settings you can see one of those screens with multiple rings in the screenshots on FDroid. On those rings you can manually and one by one add icons for apps or actions (and in the last version even more rings nested). You can set as many as you want, in as many rings as you feel like (maybe there’s some limits I don’t know). The customization options are quite nice, including distance to move the finger for each ring and area of no effect (if you want to cancel the action, I keep moving my finger in the screen quickly, browse the options in the rings and cancel it in the center where I started the gesture, it’s kinda satisfying, like a fidget thingy).

        So in the home page, you can’t see the rings (maybe there’s an option for that) and wherever you press will set the center of the rings and then with the same gesture always you can reach the same action/app. The result is quite clean and easy interactions, once you learn your own setup. The apps I use less are a bit harder to find if I forget where I put them, but in those cases you can open a list of all apps just like any launcher. And at the beginning I was struggling to get used to it, but now I find it very convenient and fast for my most used apps. Getting the right place for the icons in the rings is also a bit of a learning process of where you want things.

        Well, I hope I made it clearer and not more confusing :) maybe with the description and the screenshots in the app store you can get a pretty good idea of how it goes.

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          Thanks for taking the time to write that out, yyprum!

          It sounds interesting. I switched to O launcher when Nova was sold and the writing was on the wall, but it was overly simplistic and I didn’t continue using it when I got a pixel and moved to graphene, but I’m neutral on the default launcher it has. I’ll check this one out when I have some time, it sounds compelling.

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            I hear ya, I used Nova for so many years, always trying other things but going back to it. And like you, I dropped it as soon as it got sold. But I struggled to find a good alternative. The most similar in usage and capabilities was lawnchair and I settled with it for a long while. Nearly all other options were too simple or lacked something I really wanted in a launcher (some quick gestures, proper folder handling…)

            For the first time I have found a different approach to a launcher that I find genuinely useful aside of the Nova style.

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    I was watching a youtube video of an engineer student showing off his project. He had a stopwatch app up to show how quickly something was done, and there was a banner ad at the bottom of it. Like, it’s a damn stopwatch, who thought “I worked hard on this, and deserve to make some money!”. Also, how normalized to ads was that person that they didn’t think twice about letting that ad roll in their video.

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    They asked for ad permissions so I uninstalled and now giving Niagara a go. Have a try, it’s different.

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      Lawn Chair looks ok, but unless they fix this issue I will not switch.

      https://github.com/LawnchairLauncher/lawnchair/issues/2683

      Basically you can’t set the main “home page”, ie where you end up on home press. I like to have it set up so the home is in the middle and then you can swipe left to go to another screen(s), and swipe right to go to other screen(s).

      Forcing the home screen to be the first means you can only swipe right, and have to go through many useless screens to get to the one you want.

      Doubt they will fix it either, as it has been open since 2022. Without knowing their stack it sounds like a really simple fix, just storw which is the main screen. Normally it is [1], 2, 3, 4. But let the user choose to put it as [3] for example if they want.

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        Without knowing their stack it sounds like a really simple fix, just storw which is the main screen.

        Soooo… if it’s simple… contribute then?

        I’ve learned an app’s stack for far more mundane things. If you want others to build something you want, it helps to build things other’s want. Sounds like there would be a lot of interest if you took this on.

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        I’ve switched, but this really is my one major gripe. Good to see others see it as a priority too, but if it’s been a conversation for 4 years then I’m not optimistic

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        and have to go through many useless screens to get to the one you want.

        Two things.

        Clean your shit up and prioritize. Everything I could ever dream of is on one screen.

        Second, it’s foss. Contribute.

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          Classic “the product/UX doesn’t need fixing, you’re just using it wrong” mentality. Not exactly how you win users on your side.

          Second, it’s foss. Contribute.

          Agree on this point though

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          Or, hear me out, solve this trivial problem by reintroducing what has been a basic feature of launchers forever.

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            Has it though? I can’t say I’ve ever seen it, and I go out of my way to look at settings for everything

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              It makes sense to have it, but what is one thumb movement really? After once, the benefit goes away. And even then, it’s literally a thumb movement, and it’s to access something that you use so little, that you’ve put out of the way. You’re saving like a swipe a year at that point. I’d deprioritize the fuck out of this

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          I like having home on 3.

          Only a calendar widget on 2 (one swipe left), so you get a quick glance of upcoming events. Then two swipes left are various games. One swipe right are various overflow apps from the main screen.

          People use software differently, just because you don’t agree doesn’t mean it is wrong.

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        They recently started on wraparound homescreens (still a little buggy), so that might indicate they could soon add it. Still waiting on a way to remive widget paddings. In general lawnchair has so much more padding than nova, and not enough customizability to remove it.

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      I just tried Lawn Chair. Started building my home screen by adding two games to a folder. It dropped the second game right on my home page as well as adding it to a folder. Then, when I tried to remove the duplicate, it crashed.

      I’m guessing this is not at all typical and this is a “me” problem, otherwise nobody would ever recommend it. :P

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      This might be an unpopular opinion, but I’ve liked lawnchair better than Nova since it was in a pre-release state years ago. I admit I haven’t used either in at least 5 years, probably longer, so this opinion might be grossly out of date, but when I last tried it I was 90% convinced that it was just the KitKat aosp launcher with a material skin. It just felt clunky. Lawnchair actually felt native to newer android versions while still having all the customizations I needed.

      Again, I haven’t used either launcher in forever, so take this whole thing with an agricultural block of salt

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      Uff I installed it last week but I haven’t had the time to customize it and add all my shortcuts so I’m still using Nova. I definitely need to change it tomorrow

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    This is exactly why the first thing I did was disable updates for Nova, just in case.

    I have been using Lawnchair Nightly as my default home screen though; there are a couple of things that aren’t carried over from Nova (mainly folder and tabs in app drawer) but for the most part it’s pretty comparable.

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      What version of lawnchair are you using? I have app folders (although its a bit clunky to manage in the UI, they do exist). Still missing tabs though.

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        It has basic app folders; I just meant some of the controls that you can do in Nova like setting folders to specific tabs, showing apps in folders in main draw, etc.

        (I’m on Obtainium Lawnchair Nightly 1/22/26)

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      I just checked out the website and I’m having a hard time understanding what the point of it is. I’ve never installed any sort of custom launcher, so maybe I’m missing out, but the application advertises itself on being very similar to the regular pixel launcher, not needing root access, and nothing else. Even in the FAQ I only see that it supports some plugin that upgrades some widget, unless you have root where it supports whatever you can do with the “recents api”. Neither of those seem remotely worth it. So what does it actually do?

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        I haven’t used the pixel launcher in ages, but last time I did, you could not remove the “search bar”. That alone justifies a different launcher to me.

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        So what does it actually do?

        It replaces the launcher (“desktop”) of your phone with something else. Maybe something faster, or using less resources, or something you can customize to your taste.

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        I switched to Lawnchair when Google starting messing with the search bar. They added features right where my thumb would press to use the search bar, so I was constantly opening an AI search that I did not want. Lawnchair let me stick with a launcher I liked and was used to, but gave me the customizability to get rid of bullshit like that.

        And I generally don’t like change, and I certainly don’t want to have to do any work to facilitate a change that I don’t like in the first place, but Lawnchair was incredibly easy to set up and go. Runs basically like an app, you change your default launcher to Lawnchair (and I assume this step is similar for any launcher you’d use), and bam, runs on top of everything and that’s that. Simplicity is key for a simple guy like me.

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        The main thing for me, it gets google out of the picture. No AI, no google search bar, etc.

        It also allows me to manage apps in the app drawer. I can hide any stock apps, and put less commonly uses apps in to folders (I miss tabs on Nova). Instead of scrolling through pages of home screen, I swipe up and can see all my common apps at once, no scrolling. The home screen now has free space for widgets.

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        By default it does look similar. However it has customization options comparable to Nova, or at least I was able to easily replicate how I’d configured it.

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          Sure, but what are those? Maybe I’m the issue, but the website seems to be made for people who are already intimately familiar with the possibilities of a custom launcher, because they’re hardly listed anywhere, there’s no list of features or anything.

          Well, there is one list, but it’s

          1. “Pixel design, but more customizable somehow” How? Dunno, isn’t explained
          2. “The latest android features” which is cool but also something I have on my stock launcher
          3. “QuickSwitch support” which is not explained (some research makes me believe it’s API access to the default launcher that’s needed to show recent applications, which is also a feature my native launcher has) and needs root according to the FAQ. So can I not access my recent applications if my phone isn’t rooted?

          And the wiki is just from the dev side, which is interesting, but doesn’t provide the proper info. I’m sure it’s cool if so many people here like it, but the website’s doing a poor job at showing that off.

          Edit: Basically it seems to me like the selling points of most Android forks, which are generally “We’re slightly worse in some areas, but generally have feature-parity, possibly slightly better customization/settings, and you’re free of Google spyware” which is admittedly a selling point, but here you don’t even get rid of spyware if you’re on regular Android, and if you are already on a fork, then why bother?

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            You can change the icon pack, font, grid size, colours, etc all to your preference.

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            I would suggest simply installing it to see if you like it, or remove it if you don’t. Customization is not something easy to describe without listing menu items