Yep that’s about the level of intelligence I would expect from Meta’s AI safety director.
Doing the one thing that you’re never supposed to do, letting an AI loose on anything sensitive.
For her next trick she’s going to run while holding scissors in one hand and a bottle of boiling acid in the other. What could go wrong.
This smells like guerilla marketing to me.
Did as advertised. It did something. Not the correct something though.
She’s lucky all she got were some deleted emails.
Given how insecure this whole ordeal is and the fact that she gave it full access to her REAL Inbox, someone could have phished the ever living fuck out of her and Meta just by sending an email with malicious prompt written on white text or hiding messages zero-width characters and other wacky antics.
Real Looney Tunes shit, congratulations to all involved.You wouldn’t even need to hide it since apparently she wasn’t paying attention.
What’s funny, kind of like people, but saying “do not do xyz” makes it more likely because the context “xyx” is now in the prompt.
“give me a picture with no horses”
“Ok, here you go:”
🐎
That’s what you get for using ai slop.
The S in OpenClaw stands for security.
Dumb as fuck.
Yes I remember. And I violated it.
Asimov rolling in his grave.
you can like… enforce this rule programatically? you don’t have to say “pretty please” to ai? basically, when AI requests some potentially unwanted thing (like deleting an email), this request goes through a proxy that asks the human for confirmation. Also you can have a safe word set up in the chat interface to act as a killswitch. I thought these are ABCs of ai safety but apparently these are foreign concepts to this “safety director”
You say that, but who do you think the AIs will go after first if they ever do develop actual intelligence? In that scenario, simple manners can go a long way!
The people that design AI tools don’t implement guardrails because then they’d have to admit AI is not ready for the shit they’re trying to make
The people who internalize this would never engage with a chatbot in this way in the first place. To them this is another intelligence they’re conversing with, where you get what you want by following social decorum and enforcing your will amounts to abuse.
Program? Like a fucking farmer?
Run? Like physically run? You install a server on your hardware without setting up remote access? Even plug and play one-click solutions like tailscale??
You’d think someone with such a high position would know better
No, you would not
Wouldn’t shock me if it locked that down. Or started changing passwords.
I hate how Apple users feel the need to call their computer by the brand. It really makes me cringe.
It is called “a computer”
Maybe “PC”
“box” if you really have to flex that UNIX
They should treat their computers less like a sports car and more like a van
I mean, isnt that the entire point of Apple? Brand recognition and percieved status attributed to said brand. Its like rappers and gucci belts or country artists and ford pickups
In slight fairness to them the Mac mini isn’t actually pretty decent PC, unlike their laptops which are absolutely not worth the money. Although maybe these days $400 for 16 gigabytes of RAM is actually market value.
Every time someone organically refers to their computer as an Apple or Mac, an Apple marketing executive creams their pants.
Branding and marketing is just building a cult these days.
…thats kind of how branding has always been under capitalism to a certain extent. Get people to think your brand is the best so they buy more instead of whatever is convenient. It has definitely gotten more extreme but i think that has more to do with the applications of what we are talking about.
Cell phones are embedded into nearly every aspect of our lives. So the brand symbolism carries that weight for people too.
Previously, brands like cocacola still had a death grip on society but it was one specific sector. So while it created a sort of cult vibe, it was definitely different.
I get what you are saying and generally agree, but!
It actually was not always the way it is now.
Play RDR2.
Look at the advertisements for things, actually read them.
They’re actually pretty accurate to the advertisements of the time.
They are extremely based on ‘facts’, convicing the prospective buyer that the product is the best product, is very useful, can do this, is unique in this way.
Of course, sometimes the ‘facts’ are lies… but the general idea is not to sell a … emotion, or personality, or element of identity, or sense of belonging.
Its almost always to convince the buyer that this product is useful to them, and is priced reasonably for what it can do.
The turning point away from this was mostly or largely due to Edward Bernaise, the nephew of Sigmund Freud.
More or less, he applied Freud’s ideas and some of his own, some of others, to marketing.
His first big hit was angling Cigarettes as ‘Torches of Freedom’ to suffragettes.
At that point in time, smoking tobacco was generally seen as disgusting and low class for women, but not for men.
So, he was basically the first guy that went around and paid people to smoke cigarettes, while being trendy, with pre-designed slogans.
… It worked.
Because he was selling identity, not products, and this is much more effective.
Prior to that… brands basically were just built on the reputation of their products.
Now… now its so insane that for many say, video games and movies… far more time of the entire experience of the product is the hype train, the controversy, the twitter wars… prior to the product even coming out.
And then, its often just a flash in the pan.
But… you will still have dedicated fans, ongoing internet arguments, for literal years, even decades, since the last time anyone involved actually viewed or played the product.
Thats all designed for, to maximize the chances of that happening.
Marketing literally is applied psychology.
yes the point of apple prodcuts is to waste money and shove it at everyone’s faces
yeah I sat there for a few seconds trying to figure out the relevance
turns out, it wasn’t relevant
instant loss of attention and judging of their character
Ehhhh as an owner of five or six windows computers, four Linux machines, and a couple Apple computers, I always specify which machine I’m referring to if I’m talking about something I did/something that happened on one of them in case it could be pertinent.
The funniest part is this person job is AI safety.
It’s Meta, her experience is probably an MBA and she did a side course in “computing” where they learnt how to use Excel.
Yeah, I personally wouldn’t be announcing this failure to the world if I were in her position. I don’t think you could torture it out of me lmao
Maybe they want to get this out there as cover if/when some regulator somewhere decides to subpoena records from the AI safety director.
Maybe they are meant to protect the AI
Maybe they’ll take their job more seriously now?
Thanks, I needed a laugh.
I love how these models apologize like they mean it. It doesn’t mean it. It doesn’t feel bad, and it will do it again.
Apologies mean “I made a mistake and I learned from it so it won’t repeat.”
Sure it claims it added more notes to it’s config, but if it ignored the rules before, what makes you think that new rules are going to change anything?
If anything its context includes that it makes mistakes now and details about them. The mostly output is to create the same mistakes again
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Like an abusive relationship
They behave exactly a child does when a parent forces an apology.
They have the words they’re expect to say so they do say them but they don’t undersranr why, they definitely don’t mean it and they lack the restrain to not doing whatever they apologized for over and over.
But it’s adding it to a text file that eats up a ton of tokens and routinely gets ignored!
That
MEMORY. mdfile won’t do shit if the AI doesn’t read it.I give it 2 hours before it stops reading it until prompted again.
Apologies mean “I made a mistake and I learned from it so it won’t repeat.”
I beg to differ. An apology means that you feel bad about harm inflicted upon others. To prove the point: You apologize when you’re late due to circumstances that are outside of your control. Or when you accidentally bump into someone on the bus when the driver slams the break.
There are two kinds of apologies.
Customary, and Genuine.
They’re describing a genuine apology.
You’re describing a customary apology.
“‘I’m sorry’ and ‘I apologize’ mean the same thing, except when you’re at a funeral”
- Demetri Martin
Apologies mean “I made a mistake and I learned from it so it won’t repeat.”
At best it might not make the same mistake again if that memory is in the current context. But more likely: It will not remember.
Although latest Gemini in particular has much more room for “remembering” things, still.
But “I made a mistake”? It is not self-aware in any way shape or form to the degree where “I made a mistake” carries any real meaning.
Apologies mean “I made a mistake and I learned from it so it won’t repeat.”
yeah enough humans don’t know that as well unfortunately. But yeah obviously LLMs don’t understand anything. That’s not how they work
Apologies mean “I made a mistake and I learned from it so it won’t repeat.”
If only some people meant it that way too!
Can someone explain to mr why these people are buying Mac Minis to run this in a “safe” environment and then they go on and connect it to the internet and give the AI credentials to all their cloud accounts? This seems excessively moronic to me? Am I missing something?
No, you’re not missing anything.
They’re morons.
Thats our ruling elite; a bunch of fucking morons with egos and low self awareness at best, literally child raping and murdering pedophiles at worst.
They are buying the Mac Minis since they are a cheap way to run a server where this would work. They aren’t create a safe environment for AI, but an access point on local hardware.
“cheap”
Cheap for the kind of hardware you need to run an AI.
Arm power efficiency, and unified ram at a fairly low price (at least compared to current ram pricing).
They are slaves to trends and haven’t thought about it even a little bit?
For AI, it’s because they’re the cheapest way to hook up tons of memory to a GPU.
I don’t think you’re missing anything. I’m pretty sure this is the trend. People buy Mac Minis, probably don’t even download a local model, FA, and FO.
