• chaotic_ugly@lemmy.zip
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      If women are so great, then how come God made them so good at cooking and cleaning and not business and stocks and racecar?

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      Clearly you have not met the women of my clan, be they mothers, aunts, or wives they are forces of nature who will keep us menfolk under boot. Sisters, cousins, and daughters have no power and will be conscripted to help with the plan created with a collective total of 4 braincells.

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          I have never known more fear than when my great great aunt kicked down a door when I was being a little shit when I was 4. She usually had a standard vaguely southern derived old Inland Imperial accent, she fell right into her father German Minnesotan accent which was several types of horrific.

          Upside is it made me immune to being cowed by my mother’s 6 foot something boyfriend when he abused me when I was 8.

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    We don’t know the actual statistics of what percentage of violent crimes and sexual assaults are committed by women. A lot of woman on man crime (domestic abuse, sexual assault) largely goes unreported when it happens, and hardly ever gets taken seriously when it does.

    So long as that is still an issue, that there exists some idea that only men do these things, or mostly do these things, or even get falsely accused of doing these things while being a victim, the statistics cannot be trusted.

    Feel free to downvote if it makes you feel righteous, or on “the winning side”.

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      But we can trust something else: it is more scary for a woman to walk some poorly illuminated city street late at night than it is for a man. So nah, “these figures may not be true” does not negate “this trend does exist”

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        I question whether that fear is based on something real or just the idea that it would happen. That same idea that makes the law harsher against men committing crimes than women.

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        It is scary for anyone to walk around at night, as a man who has been robbed at gunpoint. Obviously women have worries like rape that’s more common. I think men are generally less hesitant to be violent towards other men.

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      If men didn’t “mostly do these things” the meme you’re replying to wouldn’t exist.

      Feel free to downvote me if you have enjoyed a sandwich from Arby’s in the last 30 days.

    • Absurdly Stupid @lemmy.world
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      A lot of woman on man crime (domestic abuse, sexual assault) largely goes unreported when it happens

      A lot of man-on-woman crime and man-on-man crime largely goes unreported when it happens, too, so that’s a wash, isn’t it?

      Do you think woman-on-man crime is unreported more frequently for some reason?

      Feel free to down vote this post if it makes you feel anything, really. Nobody cares.

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          “For some reason”

          Yes! That reason is the rub. It’s a quandary.

          Claims alone aren’t very convincing, men are all sorts of people and they’re not all a monolith of supposed masculinity.

          See? I’ve even lofted you a slowball.

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      Plenty of women don’t report crimes against them. I think it would be fair to assume that reporting crimes against men in an attempt to sway these numbers probably would’t change much or might even swing them further in women’s favor.

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        It’s also known that plenty of men don’t report sexual assaults by women against them because then they would be seen as weak or “lucky” because “You didn’t get raped, she just wanted to. I wish I were you!”

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            Because they don’t report the offences against them for different reasons.

            Women don’t report crimes because no one will believe them, they’re over exaggerating, or it never happened.

            When men don’t report it, it’s because they’re pussies, why didn’t they enjoy it, or belittled by other men because “well you had sex so shut up”.

            I didn’t repeat anything they said. I laid out the difference in which the genders may underreport and why.

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    Realistically I think they just need to put more work into getting men pregnant.

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    The best way to get gender equality is to stop assigning genders at birth (which also requires treating assigned sex as meaningless). The default should be agender (genderless), with gender being opt-in. Of course such a societal movement is hard, but if any of you reading this ever has a child, please do not assign gender to it.

    Obviously fighting for rights is still necessary.

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    i mean, i’m nonbinary. the assaults i’ve had from men are more severe, but they are from far fewer men. the assaults i’ve had from women are far, far less severe, but women in general seem comfortable assaulting people in broad daylight.

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      I was gonna say that some of this is also probably sentencing bias. Subjectively the correlation seems too strong to not have some truth to it. I also have other data to support male = higher violence risk largely outside of perceptual bias.

      As an example from my area of expertise, men complete suicide more often because they typically choose deadlier means (guns especially) vs women are more likely to attempt something like a drug overdose which is more reversible / leaves more opportunity for aborting the attempt. There’s not a lot of room in those stats for perceptual bias, dead is dead and alive is alive. It’s basically a known fact that men are more violent to themselves. I won’t get too much into the stats of violence against others except to say that the statistical predictor tool I’ve used for that in institutional environments didn’t use “male,” it used “male under 30y/o.”

      On the other end of perceptual errors almost govern criminal sentencing. Entrusting a group of people to judge an event reduces some but not all of the perceptual bias, but certainly can’t eliminate it. And I do also have my own subjective / experiential perspective that is similar but in some ways inverted to yours (but is also almost certainly occurring in a 100% different environment):

      When I first started in my field I was told and found to be true that when you’re breaking up a fight between men all you need to do is break eye contact. You get between them back to back with a coworker and if you can’t block their sightline to each other with your bodies you shove one of them around a corner. And that’s it. Within about 30 seconds they’re in tension reduction talking about their feelings in that emotionally constipated way western men do (“he just made me so mad!”). Otoh I was told and found to be true that you let the women go at it until the entire code team arrives from your surrounding units because you’re going to basically have to do a full restraint episode for each woman.

      (Sorry I have lots of thoughts about violence it’s actually kinda my area of professional expertise.)

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    If they wanted equal pay, they should get higher paying jobs like doctor or lawyer instead of lower paying jobs like woman doctor or woman lawyer.

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    But they do commit ~50% of spouse murders, so at least thet have that for them?

    Oh, and the women are vastly underrepresented in the victim statistics.

    Interestingly, some researchers when they control for provocation, do find that the difference is because of gender norms, and without them the violence rates equalize - see https://psycnet.apa.org/doiLanding?doi=10.1037%2F0033-2909.119.3.422

    Another fun fact, when it comes to incarceration rates women do tend to get more lenient sentences because they are women (and act pitiful on the trail) - however it is slowly changing as more and more judges slowly learn to ignore that bullcrap.

    Sources and initial readings can be found in this wikipedia article: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_differences_in_crime

    It is fun :)

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      I didn’t read the linked article but from skimming the intro, it seems they found that unprovoked men are more likely to be violent but hell hath no fury like a provoked woman?

      I initially connected your previous sentence, so I incorrectly thought it was the victim statistics that evened out, and the disparity was because the male victims were provoking, i.e. asking for it.

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        male victims were provoking, i.e. asking for it.

        What the heck is wrong with you?

        Edit: oops, my bad, I forgot we’re in the Shitpost community.

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      Y’know what, this stuff is sexist. It would be completely expected and socially supported for women to defend themselves against such odd claims, but when men do this, it’s because they’re “insecure”, or “whiny”. This is nothing but the projection of patriarchal approach to men as the ones shrugging it off meant to silence them against the clear gender war bullshit.

      But then again, we’re in the shitposting community.

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        If you go to the social media like Facebook and Instagram and look at stuff people post from objective point of view both sexes are equally bad at posting sexist shit. And yet if you go to real world, like a bar or some different social gathering place nothing of this shit matters.

        It’s just social media brainwashing by corporations which encourage these kind of idiot content for profit, nothing else.

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      that is why conservatives and TERFS are afraid of women in general, they would lose thier ability to feed a war machine, industrial complex fattening defense contractors, plus they would have more control over thier bodies.