• AFaithfulNihilist@lemmy.world
      16·
      1 month ago

      I do some e-wasting for a number of big companies and have piles of old laptops. I’ve taken to giving the laptops to people that need computers and the ones with Linux don’t taken. I literally can’t give away Linux computers. They can buy their own windows licenses.

    • Luffy879@lemmy.ml
      3·
      1 month ago

      Yep, people are so stubborn they would rather risk their entire online presence than learn that penguin hacker thingy with the white text. Also the Water is wet

  • Lad@reddthat.com
    35·
    1 month ago

    I’m a Linux noob so I put Mint on my PC. I like it a lot, very smooth and clean looking.

    • kusivittula@sopuli.xyz
      13·
      1 month ago

      i have been using mint (cinnamon) too for like a year and a half. every now and then i try another distro and a few more, but i always land back where i started. it even looks pretty with the “sweet dark v40” gtk theme.

  • Zink@programming.dev
    29·
    1 month ago

    Oh is this an excuse to hop on the Mint praise train? Don’t mind if I do!

    For me it was smoother than windows to install, it runs much better moment to moment (it’s like the people that made it were worried about making nice software rather than the business goals being pushed by their managers), and most importantly the fact that it is the “beginner” distro doesn’t compromise its capabilities. I am in the terminal all day every day and I use the machine to work on software for embedded Linux systems.

    • BoxOfFeet@lemmy.world
      11·
      1 month ago

      Mint was so easy to install. I’m pretty new to Linux. Not afraid of having to do things in the terminal, but I don’t really know many commands yet. So, I appreciate the graphical managers for updates and drivers. You can definitely tell they really worked to make a polished OS. And I really like Cinnamon. It’s a very clean looking DE that has been super easy to transition to from Windows.

      Unlike Kubuntu, I didn’t have to do any tricks or install anything from github to get stuff from my Steam library to work, everything just worked. And Kubuntu (or perhaps just Wayland) would crash upon waking my PC from sleep and wouldn’t recover.

  • PotatoesFall@discuss.tchncs.de
    25·
    1 month ago
    • Plasma is more similar to Windows
    • Plasma is more customizable
    • Plasma is just as beginner-friendly
    • Plasma has more features
    • Plasma is more actively developed
    • Plasma looks better

    Don’t get me wrong, Cinnamon is fine, but it gets recommended religiously to beginners for some reason. It just doesn’t make sense, so I will keep repeating this, not least to keep alive the ancient linux tradition of Desktop wars.

    Still, any Windows to Linux transition is a step forward and I support this, upvoted.

    • Karu 🐲@lemmy.ml
      7·
      1 month ago

      As someone who has extensively used both Cinnamon and Plasma: I find Plasma a lot less polished, by a huge margin. Not only do settings have unusual defaults and are located in places you wouldn’t expect, it also often has desktop-breaking bugs out of nowhere even in stable versions, and this has only gotten worse with Wayland. Even as someone who has been using Arch for years now, I still struggle with getting Plasma to not shit itself every once in a while.

      Cinnamon on the other hand does have a lot less features out of the box, but the few things it does, it does them well, and every setting is where a sane person would search for them.

      I would not recommend Plasma to a Linux beginner at all. It’s the kind of unpolished mess that would make anyone who doesn’t care enough about computers to just give up and go back to Windows.

      • PotatoesFall@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish
        2·
        1 month ago

        Hm thanks for sharing your experience, it’s very different from mine though. Have you used Plasma recently (Version 6+) ? And have you used it on a distro where it came pre-packaged? In my (limited) experience any DE installed on Arch is janky out of the box.

        • Karu 🐲@lemmy.mlEnglish
          4·
          1 month ago

          I am running Plasma 6.2.1 as we speak. Admittedly, yes, using Arch has certainly made it less stable. But more often than not, when I search the web for some strange behavior/bug/limitation in my desktop, I often find dozens of threads with lots of people reporting the same misbehavior or limitation from all over the distro space, and I have come to the conclussion that it’s not entirely Arch’s fault at that point.

          Have you done literally any customization to panels? I swear that shit keeps crashing whenever I do so much as unpinning a simple app launcher plasmoid, and even if it didn’t crash, it still takes patience to navigate through all the menus. They completely overhauled the way panel settings look and behave, and I still find the experience annoying as hell. In contrast, customizing panels is pretty straightforward in Cinnamon, and works as expected. It merely doesn’t look as good.

          I don’t hate Plasma, or else I would have switched to another DE by now, but this is mostly because I have learned to tame it, and that took a lot of effort that no beginner should have to go through. Cinnamon is like, the polar opposite of that, which is why I’m okay with it being religiously recommended to beginners.

          KDE’s priorities are just kinda weird. I have the similar issues with Krita, an otherwise excellent drawing program.

    • Mwa@lemm.eeEnglish
      1·
      1 month ago
      • Plasma is wayy more buggy in cinnamon (Alteast my experience)
  • Switorik@lemmy.zip
    24·
    1 month ago

    I will likely go back to mint once Windows 10 is done. 11 is pure trash.

    The major hang up I have is gaming. I have an Nvidia card and it’s never behaved well with Linux. I also like GTAO but I will no longer be able to play it. Most of my other titles work fine.

    I don’t know what I’m going to do yet.

    • NutWrench@lemmy.mlEnglish
      9·
      1 month ago

      I switched to Linux Mint several months ago. Thanks to Proton, All my Steam games that I bought for Windows run great. (I’m using an nVidia RTX 3060). And any older games like “Deus Ex” or “Giants: Citizen Kabuto” run under Wine, using the default settings.

    • nublug@lemmy.blahaj.zone
      6·
      1 month ago

      pop!os reportedly packs in and handles the proprietary nvidia drivers for you, which can be a pain to handle yourself. i haven’t tried it nor do i have nvidia but i see it highly recommended a lot.

      • methodicalaspect@midwest.socialEnglish
        4·
        1 month ago

        Am using Pop!_OS for video editing (DaVinci Resolve Studio) and gaming with nvidia GPU. I don’t have to think much about the operating system or GPU drivers, they work perfectly fine and get out of the way when I need to do some work.

        Also have it installed on both kids’ PCs (both with nvidia GPUs) and my wife’s laptop (AMD iGPU). My son has installed a few GNOME extensions to customize; my wife and daughter have left it pretty much stock. It’s about as unobtrusive as an OS can get.

        I will always have a special place in my heart for EndeavourOS, but right now, I feel like I have a more solid foundation with Pop!_OS.

        • kekmacska@lemmy.zipEnglish
          3·
          1 month ago

          have you tried Kdenlive and Olive? i heard those are very advanced and open-source. I will also switch to those from InShot

          • methodicalaspect@midwest.socialEnglish
            2·
            1 month ago

            I got my start with kdenlive and still pull up some of my old project files in it, yeah. It’s really good, has a much better feature set than one would expect.

            I got into the Blackmagic ecosystem with an Intensity Pro 4k capture card and was pretty happy to see that they offer native Linux support, even if it is for Rocky 8, so I snagged one of their Resolve Speed Editors, which came with a Resolve Studio license, and I’ve been using that ever since.

    • A_Union_of_Kobolds@lemmy.world
      5·
      1 month ago

      I too am in a conundrum. I like the idea of Linux a lot, but pretty much all I use my laptop for is a) Excel and b) very rarely games, neither of which make sense to use Linux for.

      I’ll build a home server at some point and I think that’ll be my start.

      • daggermoon@lemmy.world
        4·
        1 month ago

        Have you tried Libre Office? It’s an open source Microsoft Office alternative that works pretty great. You can try it on Windows.

        • anomnom@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
          6·
          1 month ago

          In my experience people who really use excel are always going to need excel.

          Also in my experience excel runs great on Mac Laptops, which are so much better than any other laptop I’ve touched in the last 20 years. If you’ve tried their touchpads you’ll know what I mean. Total game changers for truly mobile computing working without a desk.

          • dufkm@lemmy.worldEnglish
            3·
            1 month ago

            In my experience people who really use excel are always going to need excel

            That’s my experience too, unfortunately. LibreOffice is lagging too far behind O365 on features that you can reliably cooperate on spreadsheets across applications. Something like e.g. XLOOKUP is a fairly recent addition in Calc.

    • prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works
      2·
      1 month ago

      If your system supports windows 11 then dual boot for the games you want windows support for.

      Then you have a bare metal option for those games and you can run whatever distro you want along side it.

  • azvasKvklenko@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
    20·
    1 month ago

    Like if people actually cared that a Windows version goes EoL. That literally means nothing to most people and typical PC user won’t even notice anything until something will functionally break, which will take YEARS after it’s EoL.

      • azvasKvklenko@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        3·
        1 month ago

        Sure, Linux has some selling points and it’s a good moment for it to try and gain new users, but I’m tired of people acting like it’s the YOTLD because of what Microsoft is doing to Windows. It’s just delusional

  • Killer57@lemmy.ca
    17·
    1 month ago

    The Steam Deck and it’s desktop mode are why I decided to try jumping head first into a single boot of Bazzite on my main computer, it’s basically like using a Steam deck, just across four monitors, a year in and I haven’t looked back.

  • NutWrench@lemmy.mlEnglish
    16·
    1 month ago

    Microsoft added a CoPilot icon to my Windows 10 Taskbar yesterday. It looks to me like they’re not going to take “no” for an answer.

    They also added a “it’s time to upgrade to Windows 11” full screen message on my login screen (with the option to decline in tiny text).

    • BoxOfFeet@lemmy.world
      2·
      1 month ago

      That was my thoughts, too. So, now I’m running Mint on my gaming PC and the one hooked up in my living room for streaming. I tried Kubuntu, and liked it, but KDE Wayland was giving me issues. Installing a different desktop environment just introduced more problems, so I went with a different distro with the DE I wanted, which was Mint with Cinnamon. Now, life is good.

  • dance_ninja@lemmy.world
    15·
    1 month ago

    I’m experimenting with Pop!_OS on my aging laptop running it on a USB drive. Was happy to see it supports 2-in-1 functionality.

  • somtwo@lemmy.world
    15·
    1 month ago

    I’ve installed mint on my laptop, I like it so far. Everything was super easy to get set up, even the graphics drivers

    • Pofski@lemmy.world
      3·
      1 month ago

      question, i have a older computer that i want to switch to linux. It has a 1080. Do i just install linux and it will work, or do i have to go look for drivers, or do i have to use the onboard graphics till i get everything installed? How do i have to imagine it?

      • KokusnussRitter@discuss.tchncs.de
        3·
        1 month ago

        I am a Linux beginner so i could be wrong, but I believe Linux is very plug and play and has drivers already integrated. At least I don’t remember downloading any when I set it up. I am personally using Linux Mint Cinnamon with a GTX 1060. In Mint there is a Driver Manager preinstalled which let’s you pick a few nvidia drivers and an open source alternative, so it’s very beginner friendly :)

        screen capture Driver Manager

        do I have to use the onboard graphics till i get everything installed?

        To that I can confidentially say no: because I have no onboard graphics and always had video output ^^

      • somtwo@lemmy.world
        1·
        1 month ago

        Why would I do that? People might see me!

        But joking aside, I admit I haven’t done much with the laptop since installing mint (cinnamon for those playing at home). But I did instsll a daw (reaper) and recorded some music ideas using my Focusrite Scarlet 2i2 audio interface

        • Matshiro@szmer.info
          1·
          1 month ago

          Glad to hear that you didn’t had any problem with focusrite, I also use it so at least now I know that it works.

  • I Cast Fist@programming.dev
    15·
    1 month ago

    Remember when Windows XP reached EoL the first time in 2009 and people abandoned it? Yeah, me neither, but I remember Microsoft groaning and extending some support for a few more years, until the final EoL in 2014. I expect the same to happen to 10.