Really though. It’s crazy how much high is at your fingertips these days. Back in the day you had to buy weed and usually roll it into a joint or blunt, or at the very least pack it into a bowl. And either way it was getting smoked. Maybe you had a brownie once in a while if someone you knew was making them.
It’s a consequence of weed being illegal. If you need fewer grams to get high (because it has higher THC content) you can sell less weed for the same money which makes smuggling it much more cost effective.
I’d argue it’s actually the other way around, as someone who partakes in a legal us state.
The “old weed” stories told to me by old timers was often whatever trash you could get ahold of. You didn’t get a choice, whatever wet, stemmy-ass baggies your local dealer was passing is what you got. Sometimes you got zonked, sometimes it was mild and pretty “meh”.
Nowadays all the legal states have tightly controlled commercial growers making flower from carefully propagated genetic lines, optimized and controlled indoor environments, taking lab tests of every batch. Since what legal dispensaries list on the wall is the THC%, thats basically the marketing number that they try to maximize. These commercial growers make so goddamn much they end up dumping product everywhere, and even though “it’s illegal” this industrially strong weed gets exported to every other nationwide black market.
Couple that with all the different forms of distillates you can buy right off the shelf, there is more raw THC available to the modern stoner than there was to anyone else in history.
OP’s commenter probably took a solid hit expected an old weed joint puff, but got their lungs jackhammered by 40 years of pure industrial optimization.
Weed was pretty new to the american mainstream culture, from being just something used by immigrants in the early 1900s to being embraced by the counterculture in the 60s to finally becoming legal some places in the 2010s. During all that time, the law of prohibition was making it more potent, to make it easier to smuggle.
Now that it is legal, it is easier to get it in a regulated dose in whichever strength you want, just like you can have alcohol at pretty much any strength.
That said, a lot of the vapes are still solidly in the gray market and kinda sketchy.
During all that time, the law of prohibition was making it more potent, to make it easier to smuggle.
Not at all. The US market was dominated for a long time by very low quality Mexican cannabis, where the growers seemed to treat it like industrial hemp production, producing large bales full of stems and seeds, poorly cured, with little regard for THC content. As it became more difficult to smuggle their bulky product across the border into the US, Mexican producers responded by smuggling in the laborers, instead, to produce the same low quality product inside the United States, on clandestine farms on public lands. Law enforcement responded to this with aerial surveillance, forcing growers indoors. That’s the point where quality began to improve, as growing indoors is more technically challenging, creating more proficient farmers, and quality improvements allowed the more expensive to produce indoor cannabis to compete with low quality outdoor grown cannabis.
Only once indoor production began to dominate the market did concentrates like hash oil begin to become common, as the more technically proficient growers gained the expertise to produce it, and had an economic pressure to maximize THC yields from what at that point had become agricultural waste, with a more discerning consumer now unwilling to smoke anything less than seedless flowers.
Yeah, the Mexican dirt weed I used to get as a teenager, you could smoke half a joint by yourself and be buzzed.
I quit when I was 18, but then I moved to a legal state and I took one puff and was legitimately stoned for the rest of the day. Like, could barely control myself.
The modern stuff is super strong.
was legitimately stoned for the rest of the day. Like, could barely control myself.
Okay, seriously. Does this actually happen?
I hit a 84% thc vape from Michigan today, and after about 5 minutes felt nothing. 3 8 second drags until the vape auto-shutoff each time, and I feel it for about 30-45 minutes.
If I want to be stoned literally all day, I have to be hitting the vape at least every 30-90 minutes depending on how hard I hit it.
I usually don’t even feel edibles until I’ve had 30-50mg.
I’m genuinely curious how much it takes for other people to get high, and how they experience it. I feel like I’m missing out.
Are you a ginger? Is this like the anesthetic thing?
I haven’t smoked or consumed thc in a year. I took a 10mg edible with a friend a week ago and we went to a hockey game and I felt like my stoned college days laughing about stadium hot dogs. Everyone is different. But tolerance builds more and more the more you consume and more frequently
Be a lightweight to start with and then don’t smoke for a decade. Shit hits harder than the first coffee after a 6 week caffeine break.
A single Dynavap bowl of decent flower will get me feeling buzzed. 4 bowls, I’m glued to the couch for 2-4 hours. I don’t use very often though. Sometimes a few times a week, sometimes months without using.
I think you’ve got a mighty tolerance and it’s probably time for a break if 30-50mg barely hits you. I’m pretty experienced with weed and drugs in general, and 50mg will have me absolutely ripped and mostly non-verbal for hours. 30mg is a sweet spot for stoned and in public.
I think it just affects everyone differently. I’ve never felt a thing from edibles. Don’t get much from high thc weed. Best thing for me are infused joints. Even some of those are hit or miss.
Trying to maximize is only part of it, the other really big thing with legalization and commercial growers is consistently predicable and measurable strength.
I usually prefer edibles, which were not really a thing the way they are now. I can go to a store or online and order a pack of edibles in a very wide range of concentrations, all lab tested and certified and each piece is incredibly consistent.
The same goes for flower; a grower can produce a crop and tell you exactly how strong it is, and I can take that information and use it for consistent dosing. There’s really no guesswork or wondering if the “super strong bud” is actually that, or not at all, or “I took one puff and I can now smell sound” strong. You are right though in the amount of the latter that is produced and just how strong it’s getting, but that does seem to be plateauing somewhat.
One good thing about high % weed though, is if you’re simply using it to get high and smoking it, it’s a lot less volume to have to smoke, which is overall way better for your throat and lungs.
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Imagine coming home to your parent trying to be mad at you, while also incredibly high on your drugs.
That would be a weird experience, to say the least.
Tbh, if I saw my dad absolutely fucked up after hitting my vape pen as a teenager, it would probably have rattled me enough to make me stop for a few years at least.
Years ago I would try to hide my pot smoking from my parents.
Now I am hiding my pot smoking from my kids.
Someday my kids will be hiding their pot smoking from me.
And my dad ended up getting into hydroponic gardening shortly after I moved out.
The circle of life, man.
When my son was looking at colleges, we took a couple of road trips together to see schools. We’ve always been very close, and I told him my drug history, as a true cautionary tale. I didn’t tell him to not try drugs, but to deal with them responsibly.
Today, he’ll do the occasional edible, but he doesn’t like smoking at all. I definitely use way more weed than he does. He’s a lightweight, one canned margarita does him in.
I would just keep swiping their vapes and not say anything. See how long it takes.
“My vapes and all the snacks keep disappearing and dad’s also been acting weird…”
Ooh better yet, use like 90% of it and switch it out whenever they get a new one. Then they will just think they are hitting it too much.
Couple it with changing clocks and other small things to make them believe they are getting so high they blackout and are losing time so they reconsider getting high.
“This salad tastes like pussy” vibes.
Gen-X here. Most of us grew up on absolute trash weed. Modern weed is incredibly clean and strong. Vapes are a distillation of that. When it’s all said and done, taking deep hits of a THC vape after only having a few puffs at a Pearl Jam concert back in 1994, might lead to regrettable consequences.
I smoked a little when it was illegal in my state but legal in others. I made brownies. I think the new weed is just “take a hit or two” or even “share a joint with 3-4 people” and it’s fine. I love that my vapes are $30 legally and just last for months. Such a cheap drug now.
Always gotta tell myself “just a little puff or two from the vape, no more, or you’re going to think that you’re gonna die”
I’m from Western Canada and while our experience is very very far from the rest of NA’s…(none of our shit came from Mexico) one thing that’s definitely changed over the last few decades is the knowledge base of cannabis growers in general.
There are more cannabis specific products such as nutrient blends, pest, and environmental controls. Off the shelf products you can order online that used to be custom made or end you up on a list.
People understand pruning, topping, and branch lining. This becomes especially apparent when you compare amateur growers to intermediate and medical grade growers.
Than there’s the genetics being improved through breeding. .
But the main thing I’m told is that a lot of weed in the USA came from outdoor grows in Mexico. Which outdoor can never, ever, compete with indoor.
I didn’t know they’d been working on this shit like it’s the cure for cancer
The first time I hit a cart after years of just flower, I had to just sit down for like half an hour before I could think thoughts.
A few months ago, the local dispensary was out of the vape I would normally buy, so I tried a new one instead. Took a hit, thought “Well, guess I’m going to bed right now, then,” and laid in bed. That thing hit me so hard, at one point I had to check the news on my phone to confirm whether there’d been another earthquake, or if I’d just ripped a massive fart and not realized.
Seems like the difference between a basic distillate and a live resin cart. Live resin is the better choice, but it’s usually more expensive.
