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      Probably not. The goal isn’t to sell American routers.

      The goal is to sell routers to Americans with government back doors built-in.

      Any companies with approval will be providing that back door.

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    This has pay-to-play written all over it. It’s also opening a door to US companies capturing a market, which you know is going to mean the US government gets a big ol’ backdoor. Suddenly Meta is in the router market… 💀

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    To be honest, this is probably justified. My knee-jerk reaction was “oh look, USA in antagonizing everyone else again”, but consumer routers are a really significant security junction which historically has always been somewhat neglected. I only read a few sentences before the paywall stopped me, but sounds like they’ll whitelist any foreign manufacturers that are legitimate.

    Yes, it’s gonna have corruption and bribes all over it… But on paper, it’s justified.

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      What? Because companies from other countries are evil? What makes you think that companies in your own country are better?

      Why does the country even matter?

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      but consumer routers are a really significant security junction which historically has always been somewhat neglected.

      You’re right, but simply shifting the produchtion from overseas to US doesn’t inherently make the routers more secure. The aeticle mentions the lack of software updates for discontinued products as a big threat that has been exploited in the past.

      I only read a few sentences before the paywall stopped me,

      Fortunately, there is no paywall for me. Here is the article on archive.org.

      but sounds like they’ll whitelist any foreign manufacturers that are legitimate.

      No, the article mentions only one exception:

      Now, router makers need to A) secure a “conditional approval” that lets them keep getting new products cleared for US entry while they work to convince the government that they’ll open up manufacturing in the US, or B) make the decision to skip selling future products in the US, like dronemaker DJI already did.

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      I hope things like hardware made by/for openwrt remain available, but it sounds like they will cease to be?

      My first thought was the risk of the us demanding us manufacturers include a backdoor

      It sounds like the exemption for foreign companies is an option while they create plans for american manufacturing

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        I hope things like hardware made by/for openwrt remain available, but it sounds like they will cease to be?

        It seems like professional equipment will not be affected:

        While the FCC’s Covered List makes it sound like the US is banning all “routers produced in a foreign country,” it’s defined a bit more narrowly than that. It’s specifically banning “consumer-grade routers” as defined in NIST Internal Report 8425A, which refers to ones “intended for residential use and can be installed by the customer.”

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          That’s not reassuring. It sounds like they don’t want home users to be able to get any router they could manage themselves.

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          I’m not sure their like bananapi based router would be considered professional. More home tinkerer

          I’m not sure what that’ll mean for the impact of this change, but I guess we’ll see 🤷🏻‍♂️

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      Routers are incredibly simple. You can run your own using openwrt or opnsense. Then some dumb switches and access points and you’re good to go.

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      It only applies to router models that aren’t approved by FCC yet. I.e., you will be able allowed to buy those (current and future) models who already have an FCC approval.

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      It sounds like you should still be able to buy stuff, I don’t believe it takes active effect immediately